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Re: Christian debate!

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God didnt write the 10 commandments Moses did :roll: im a strong Catholic and I believe the bible is living. God doesnt enforce tjhe killing of homosexuals, he just claims thats not the reason they were made for.
Was just gonna say that but wasnt sure. I dont approve.of homosexuality but also have nothing against it. Though, I dont recall there being Adam and Steve in the bible :
Thats what my dad said when we discussed this :roll:
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Re: Christian debate!

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Please state if you are an athiest or a Christian, or any other religeon. I want to see what people think, though I'm mainly looking for answers from other Christians to see what they think on this issue. Please do not argue "is God real?" Can we please just assume he is for the purposes of this post, thank you :)






What is your guys's standpoint on the Bible saying that you can't be homosexual? I'm trying to figure out what the wording means and am trying to dig up the oldest versions of the bible to figure it out, from their text. I do not, however believe that "God hates Homosexuals" for he statues that you must repent sin through Jesus and you are given a place in heaven despite any past deeds, and, frankly i dont really see whats wrong with bieng homosexual at the extreme ness of calling it a sin.
You should also remember that laws have changed, where it says in Leviticus that "you shall be stoned" it also says that you are forbidden to have haircuts, tattoos, eat mean from animals without split ties and that re-chews its food, note that these are all Jewish laws, in later books in the New Testament, these laws have been "overturned" so to speak.

Im looking forward to seening your posts!
I first of all would like to say thank you for actually researching issues. A lot of people these days just dont care or dont want to care and simply believe because someone told them.

Onto my view, I believe homosexuality is just as sinful as any other sin. The Bible doesnt hold any sin higher than another (besides blasphemy). In Leviticus it says homosexuality is detestable. Thats pretty clear to me. I can find the reference if you would like.

Also, when God made Adam and Eve, man and woman, He said it was good. This to me means that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman.

Also, in the New Testament Paul writes, "Do not even have a hint of sexual immorality." NOT EVEN A HINT. Not even a thought about sex that was other than God intended it to be.

Hope this helps! I know I was refering to modern translations but they are still God's Word. People say that you cant trust the Bible because its been translated so many times, but thats not true. Yes there are translation errors, but those errors dont change anything theologically.

Re: Christian debate!

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Doesn't God love us no matter what disability, race, religion and sexual orientation?
Yes He does!! that doesnt make sinning right though.

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Nowhere in the bible is there any classification of sin being worse than other sin(with the exception of the unforgivable sin... But that's for another topic)

In my eyes, we all struggle with sin, its a matter of which sin people struggle with

Not honoring thy father and mothers opinions (or mother and mother/father and father for this instance :lol:) is just as bad as being homosexual and as murdering

Us as humans tend to rank sins worse than others, but they're all equally bad. So my view on homosexuals is that theyre sinners and they'll burn if they don't repent; but that's my same view on adulterers, people that use the lords name in vein, kill people, steal, etc

I have studied this topic many many times and have yet to find a passage from the old and New Testament alike that rank one sin worse than another, if you believe there is, prove me wrong please. I am just trying to get the most clear approaches to things and like being taught different if I'm proven wrong
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Re: Christian debate!

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Also, when God made Adam and Eve, man and woman, He said it was good. This to me means that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman.

Also, in the New Testament Paul writes, "Do not even have a hint of sexual immorality." NOT EVEN A HINT. Not even a thought about sex that was other than God intended it to be.

Hope this helps! I know I was refering to modern translations but they are still God's Word. People say that you cant trust the Bible because its been translated so many times, but thats not true. Yes there are translation errors, but those errors dont change anything theologically.
Why are there homosexual plants/animals? Did God decide only humans should be heterosexual but decided plants could be whatever they wanted? Or will all the homosexual plants and animals go to Hell :roll: At least I'll have a lush animal-filled sanction to spend the rest of my eternal life in since I am a mere sinful atheist.
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Re: Christian debate!

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Also, when God made Adam and Eve, man and woman, He said it was good. This to me means that God intended marriage to be between a man and a woman.

Also, in the New Testament Paul writes, "Do not even have a hint of sexual immorality." NOT EVEN A HINT. Not even a thought about sex that was other than God intended it to be.

Hope this helps! I know I was refering to modern translations but they are still God's Word. People say that you cant trust the Bible because its been translated so many times, but thats not true. Yes there are translation errors, but those errors dont change anything theologically.
Why are there homosexual plants/animals? Did God decide only humans should be heterosexual but decided plants could be whatever they wanted? Or will all the homosexual plants and animals go to Hell :roll: At least I'll have a lush animal-filled place sanction to spend the rest of my eternal life in since I am a mere sinful atheist.
Um plants/animals dont have souls that go to heaven or hell as far as I know.

And God clearly says that He made humans special. We are the only things he created in His image.

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Still doesn't explain why plants or animals would just be disregarded like that. :/
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disregarded? how did God disregard them? did God disregard humans because He only made us with two walking legs instead of four? Because four is better than two for walking on land. No! He made everything for a purpose and each thing He created fulfills that purpose.

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So what's the purpose of homosexual plants and/or animals.
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