Celtic Heroes

Ok, whoa whoa. Very confused...

An STD is a sexually transmitted disease (or a disease brought upon by unclean needles, etc). Homosexuality is the attraction between people of the same sex. How do homosexual people increase STD's?

If the point is that sex in general is dangerous and can spread diseases, ok. However, I fail to see how blaming homosexual people for everything is correct...

It doesn't seem like any of you really want to know. You just want to argue. Except maybe vraelen. Look Vrealen, i am not blaiming homos; i think it is wrong but i have not really studied it and I don't know what dangers it might have. Magical i did not say that marriage was a protection against std's;(well if i did im now going to clarify) if you marry a virgin while yourself a virgin and you both stay faithful to each other you will not get std's that way. There may be other ways to infect someone that i dnt know about. As i said before magical, Jesus could not have been a liar. If you want to know why maybe ill copy down a page from evidence that demands a verdict. You try to make it sound like true Christians are hateful people. There is not one true christian that i know of who is a hater. Plus3, you still haven't answered my question of why almost every geological time-clock points to creation; why no historical or scientific principle in the Bible has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong; why the Bible predicts things about science that evolution can only explain. I questioned my faith when i was younger. I wondered why evolution was wrong. I was probably the exact opposite of you Plus3. We both questioned our faiths. We both studied the matter. But we came to different conclusions.

How does every geological 'time clock' point to a creation? If by a 4.3 billion year old planet that formed naturally out of the dust, debris, and other larger merging objects that made up our solar system then yes all point to that. If you mean some truly insane idea the earth is 6000 years old or some nonsense I have no idea as to where any actual facts point to it.

Perhaps you could share some of that information.

As to proof that the bible is BS let's start with the mitochondrial DNA and other DNA evidence that people never were a population of 2. There is genetic proof that Adam and Eve is a myth or there would be overwhelming and obvious genetic markers. Not to mention that it is highly likely you have nethanderal DNA in you as humans interbred with as many as four separate hominid species. Swab your cheek and send it in for only 90 bucks you can know. It's patently obvious and a fact that evolution is correct. All your religious crying and spewing nonsense and trying to disbelieve reality makes no difference. Reality ain't goin nowhere.

We can start with that but basically the enitre bible is bollocks. There is hardly anything true at all period. Origins of the universe - wrong. Origins of life on earth - wrong. World flood - wrong. All animals and plants on an ark - wrong. Mass exodus from Egypt - wrong. Don't even have time to really get started but this is a very short part of a humongous list of BS in there.

Ok, whoa whoa. Very confused...

An STD is a sexually transmitted disease (or a disease brought upon by unclean needles, etc). Homosexuality is the attraction between people of the same sex. How do homosexual people increase STD's?

If the point is that sex in general is dangerous and can spread diseases, ok. However, I fail to see how blaming homosexual people for everything is correct...

It doesn't seem like any of you really want to know. You just want to argue. Except maybe vraelen. Look Vrealen, i am not blaiming homos; i think it is wrong but i have not really studied it and I don't know what dangers it might have. Magical i did not say that marriage was a protection against std's;(well if i did im now going to clarify) if you marry a virgin while yourself a virgin and you both stay faithful to each other you will not get std's that way. There may be other ways to infect someone that i dnt know about. As i said before magical, Jesus could not have been a liar. If you want to know why maybe ill copy down a page from evidence that demands a verdict. You try to make it sound like true Christians are hateful people. There is not one true christian that i know of who is a hater. Plus3, you still haven't answered my question of why almost every geological time-clock points to creation; why no historical or scientific principle in the Bible has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong; why the Bible predicts things about science that evolution can only explain. I questioned my faith when i was younger. I wondered why evolution was wrong. I was probably the exact opposite of you Plus3. We both questioned our faiths. We both studied the matter. But we came to different conclusions.

How does every geological 'time clock' point to a creation? If by a 4.3 billion year old planet that formed naturally out of the dust, debris, and other larger merging objects that made up our solar system then yes all point to that. If you mean some truly insane idea the earth is 6000 years old or some nonsense I have no idea as to where any actual facts point to it.

Perhaps you could share some of that information.

As to proof that the bible is BS let's start with the mitochondrial DNA and other DNA evidence that people never were a population of 2. There is genetic proof that Adam and Eve is a myth or there would be overwhelming and obvious genetic markers. Not to mention that it is highly likely you have nethanderal DNA in you as humans interbred with as many as four separate hominid species. Swab your cheek and send it in for only 90 bucks you can know. It's patently obvious and a fact evolution is a fact.

We can start with that but basically the enitre bible is bollocks. There is hardly anything true at all period. Origins of the universe - wrong. Origins of life on earth - wrong. World flood - wrong. All animals and plants on an ark - wrong. Mass exodus from Egypt - wrong. Don't even have time to really get started but this is a very short part of a humongous list of BS in there.[/quote]

Ok i don't know anything about DNA and all that so i cnt debate you there. There is probably an explanation and someone who could explain it or tell you its wrong, but i admit that I cannot. It's funny because i asked for things that had been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong. If this is so then why so creationists still win debates? There is much evidence that points to the flood, one of which is the fact that seasrtifacts are found on mountains. Evolution may be able to explain this but the bible predicts it. The mass exodus from Egypt; show me evidence against it. There is no way you can prove the origin of the universe; you can just see which one fits facts better. As for showing geologic time-clocks, one of them is the sun. The sun is shrinking. If it had bee shrinking for billions of years, when it started it would have been large enough to swallow the earth. The same principle applies to niagra falls, except that it would be much bigger if it had been around for even a couple million years because of erosion. Another time clock is space dust. There is no wind on the moon to disturb the dust and if the moon was billions of years old there should have been like yards of dust. Instead they only found an inch. This is just a sampling of geological time clocks.

Just putting this out there as another reason why I am not fond of religion.

"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the Church ruled. This time was called the dark ages."
- Richard Lederer

That is not to say everything can be blamed on religion but a great deal still can.

This was the Catholic Church. No offense to them but a lot of things they did were atrocious. They( again no offense) are not Christians( or if they were they acted in a most unbiblical manner).

So catabolics aren't christans. Hmmm. So who were the real Christians for the first one thousand six hundred years? I'm really curious here.

Just putting this out there as another reason why I am not fond of religion.

"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the Church ruled. This time was called the dark ages."
- Richard Lederer

That is not to say everything can be blamed on religion but a great deal still can.

This was the Catholic Church. No offense to them but a lot of things they did were atrocious. They( again no offense) are not Christians( or if they were they acted in a most unbiblical manner).

So catabolics aren't christans. Hmmm. So who were the real Christians for the first one thousand six hundred years? I'm really curious here.

Ok not quite understanding the question. Are u talking about the years after creation or are you talking about a.d.?

Ok, whoa whoa. Very confused...

An STD is a sexually transmitted disease (or a disease brought upon by unclean needles, etc). Homosexuality is the attraction between people of the same sex. How do homosexual people increase STD's?

If the point is that sex in general is dangerous and can spread diseases, ok. However, I fail to see how blaming homosexual people for everything is correct...

It doesn't seem like any of you really want to know. You just want to argue. Except maybe vraelen. Look Vrealen, i am not blaiming homos; i think it is wrong but i have not really studied it and I don't know what dangers it might have. Magical i did not say that marriage was a protection against std's;(well if i did im now going to clarify) if you marry a virgin while yourself a virgin and you both stay faithful to each other you will not get std's that way. There may be other ways to infect someone that i dnt know about. As i said before magical, Jesus could not have been a liar. If you want to know why maybe ill copy down a page from evidence that demands a verdict. You try to make it sound like true Christians are hateful people. There is not one true christian that i know of who is a hater. Plus3, you still haven't answered my question of why almost every geological time-clock points to creation; why no historical or scientific principle in the Bible has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong; why the Bible predicts things about science that evolution can only explain. I questioned my faith when i was younger. I wondered why evolution was wrong. I was probably the exact opposite of you Plus3. We both questioned our faiths. We both studied the matter. But we came to different conclusions.

Let me just point this out. Carbon dating shows otherwise to the idea the earth was made only a few thousand years ago.

Just putting this out there as another reason why I am not fond of religion.

"There once was a time when all people believed in God and the Church ruled. This time was called the dark ages."
- Richard Lederer

That is not to say everything can be blamed on religion but a great deal still can.

This was the Catholic Church. No offense to them but a lot of things they did were atrocious. They( again no offense) are not Christians( or if they were they acted in a most unbiblical manner).

So catabolics aren't christans. Hmmm. So who were the real Christians for the first one thousand six hundred years? I'm really curious here.

I find that I am in the religion that teaches the truth, and true christianty. Many churches who claim to be Christian or any other religion for that matter have shown hypocrisy and false teaching lying to millions of people.

Honestly it's quite interesting how false Christians came to exist, Constantine was the first Roman emperor to profess Christianity. By doing so, he profoundly influenced world history. He embraced this previously persecuted religion and set it on a path that led to the formation of Christendom. While professing to champion Christianity, Constantine kept one foot in paganism. For example, he practiced astrology and divination—occult activities that the Bible condemns. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) On the Arch of Constantine in Rome, he is shown sacrificing to pagan deities. He continued to honor the sun-god by featuring the deity on coins and promoting the sun-god cult.

So with that said, What does all of this mean for us? It means that we should not take the teachings of any church for granted but that we should examine them in the light of the Bible.—1 John 4:1.

Solumbum the reason Adam and Eve isnt possible is because any and all genetic imperfections they had would be exemplified by mass reproduction with siblings. There was once a king whose chin and nose touched because those were traits that he had biologically inherited because kings and queens seem to love marrying their cousins.

Ok, whoa whoa. Very confused...

An STD is a sexually transmitted disease (or a disease brought upon by unclean needles, etc). Homosexuality is the attraction between people of the same sex. How do homosexual people increase STD's?

If the point is that sex in general is dangerous and can spread diseases, ok. However, I fail to see how blaming homosexual people for everything is correct...

It doesn't seem like any of you really want to know. You just want to argue. Except maybe vraelen. Look Vrealen, i am not blaiming homos; i think it is wrong but i have not really studied it and I don't know what dangers it might have. Magical i did not say that marriage was a protection against std's;(well if i did im now going to clarify) if you marry a virgin while yourself a virgin and you both stay faithful to each other you will not get std's that way. There may be other ways to infect someone that i dnt know about. As i said before magical, Jesus could not have been a liar. If you want to know why maybe ill copy down a page from evidence that demands a verdict. You try to make it sound like true Christians are hateful people. There is not one true christian that i know of who is a hater. Plus3, you still haven't answered my question of why almost every geological time-clock points to creation; why no historical or scientific principle in the Bible has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong; why the Bible predicts things about science that evolution can only explain. I questioned my faith when i was younger. I wondered why evolution was wrong. I was probably the exact opposite of you Plus3. We both questioned our faiths. We both studied the matter. But we came to different conclusions.

Let me just point this out. Carbon dating shows otherwise to the idea the earth was made only a few thousand years ago.

Let me just point this out. Carbon dating also does not match up with the geological ages.

Ok, whoa whoa. Very confused...

An STD is a sexually transmitted disease (or a disease brought upon by unclean needles, etc). Homosexuality is the attraction between people of the same sex. How do homosexual people increase STD's?

If the point is that sex in general is dangerous and can spread diseases, ok. However, I fail to see how blaming homosexual people for everything is correct...

It doesn't seem like any of you really want to know. You just want to argue. Except maybe vraelen. Look Vrealen, i am not blaiming homos; i think it is wrong but i have not really studied it and I don't know what dangers it might have. Magical i did not say that marriage was a protection against std's;(well if i did im now going to clarify) if you marry a virgin while yourself a virgin and you both stay faithful to each other you will not get std's that way. There may be other ways to infect someone that i dnt know about. As i said before magical, Jesus could not have been a liar. If you want to know why maybe ill copy down a page from evidence that demands a verdict. You try to make it sound like true Christians are hateful people. There is not one true christian that i know of who is a hater. Plus3, you still haven't answered my question of why almost every geological time-clock points to creation; why no historical or scientific principle in the Bible has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt wrong; why the Bible predicts things about science that evolution can only explain. I questioned my faith when i was younger. I wondered why evolution was wrong. I was probably the exact opposite of you Plus3. We both questioned our faiths. We both studied the matter. But we came to different conclusions.

Let me just point this out. Carbon dating shows otherwise to the idea the earth was made only a few thousand years ago.

The Genesis account opens with the simple, powerful statement: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) Bible scholars agree that this verse describes an action separate from the creative days recounted from verse 3 onward. The implication is profound. According to the Bible’s opening statement, the universe, including our planet Earth, was in existence for an indefinite time before the creative days began.
Geologists estimate that the earth is approximately 4 billion years old, and astronomers calculate that the universe may be as much as 15 billion years old. Do these findings—or their potential future refinements—contradict Genesis 1:1? No. The Bible does not specify the actual age of “the heavens and the earth.” Science does not disprove the Biblical text.

Ok, I guess we all have our views on human sexuality with different definitions. Honestly, people can believe whatever they want as long as if does not lead to discrimination or another such conflict.

Back to that quote: The blame could be placed on the churches but those churches still work in the name of religion. In fact, a great amount of conflicts throughout history have been in the name of some religion or due to religious differences. Various mass murders have been in the name of religion, for the purpose of changing religion, or for the purpose of eliminating religion.

I am not saying religion is horrible though. However, if there is a god out there as seemingly benevolent in scriptures, it should sort out this mess. Even if you believe the world to be 6000 years old, that is still a long time. The collections of scripture, such as the bible, seems to be intended for a much more primitive humanity. We have advanced and matured as a race. If we truly are children to a god, he/she/it should continue it's teachings and help us grow.

I have heard of the analogy that we (humanity) are kids and a god would be the parents; existing as a family. Supposedly we are not ready for the real world. We get punished just as a parent would punish their children. We learn by reading (religious text) and get tested through various circumstances beginning with Adam and Eve. This situation would make perfect sense except for one problem: it is a still frame. Where is the progress? Children are supposed to grow up. Even by learning from the scripture, those texts do not change. The Bible, Koran, etc, are not getting any bigger.

As for various scientific practices that are not still not believed in, that is somewhat ok. It is fine to challenge an idea. However, to be discouraged from so many sources is almost madness. Seeing ever changing micro-organisms, carbon dating, fossils, DNA, geological processes, etc. There are so many sources that support evolution and an Earth that is in fact not only over 6 thousand years old and well into the millions but an Earth that is billions of years old. We even use these controversial concepts to create medicine, fight diseases, create new computing hardware (such as the relatively new theory of quantum computing), etc etc etc.

However, the bottom line is that you can believe whatever you like. However, if that belief closes you off to new possibilities and the possible advancement of humanity, there is a problem. That goes for everyone. You have to be open to new scientific theories but at the same time, you must also still remain open to a level of intelligence that is beyond our understanding.

On a side note, Happy New Years! May we all progress in our lives and ignore the hundred spelling and grammatical errors that are probably throughout this post. :/ Lol