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Re: A discussion about religion

#1101
As far as homosexuality, you are not born homosexual, you choose to be homosexual. Your arguments about God making people homosexual so he can watch them suffer are invalid.

Why does the Bible's God ban homosexuality and adultery? STD s (duh)
American High schools are a cesspool of STD s now.

The Biblical take on homosexual relationships is that they are wrong the same way adulterous relationships are wrong.

I will only give me personal opinion on homosexuality if it is asked for.

That is complete and utter *******, i have zero tolerance for bigots like you.
Homosexuals do not choose to be homosexual, they are born that way. It occurs in nearly EVERY sophisticated species on our planet, and humans are the only species of all that see it as any kind of threat to our way of life. It is also bigoted and homophobic to suggest that homosexuality is a cause, or catalyst for STD's because actually, there are fewer available people to have sex with if you are gay which means a smaller possible pool for spreading of disease.


You have no idea what you are talking about, i suggest you seriously double think the next time you try to tell someone that sexual orientation is a choice
Go ahead and be upset, you are only going with the flow. You can whine and call me a bigot but what I said is true.
Also keep in mind that when I am talking about the Bible I am presenting the Christian view not personal views.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1102
The end is near and the world has changed, all signs point toward it, science is amazing, yet doesn't provide us with all the answers and is still flawed, but when the day is here, I would love to see science save you.
I'm going to make a personal request here. Could you please refer to it as 'the end is neigh!'. It sounds way cooler in that unwashed street bum kinda religious way.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1103
That is complete and utter *******, i have zero tolerance for bigots like you.
Homosexuals do not choose to be homosexual, they are born that way. It occurs in nearly EVERY sophisticated species on our planet, and humans are the only species of all that see it as any kind of threat to our way of life. It is also bigoted and homophobic to suggest that homosexuality is a cause, or catalyst for STD's because actually, there are fewer available people to have sex with if you are gay which means a smaller possible pool for spreading of disease.


You have no idea what you are talking about, i suggest you seriously double think the next time you try to tell someone that sexual orientation is a choice
Go ahead and be upset, you are only going with the flow. You can whine and call me a bigot but what I said is true.
Also keep in mind that when I am talking about the Bible I am presenting the Christian view not personal views.
Yes we are familiar with your reality denying bigot cult views. Congrats on spreading the unfounded hate that helps to finally crush that annoying brain worm.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1104
That is complete and utter *******, i have zero tolerance for bigots like you.
Homosexuals do not choose to be homosexual, they are born that way. It occurs in nearly EVERY sophisticated species on our planet, and humans are the only species of all that see it as any kind of threat to our way of life. It is also bigoted and homophobic to suggest that homosexuality is a cause, or catalyst for STD's because actually, there are fewer available people to have sex with if you are gay which means a smaller possible pool for spreading of disease.


You have no idea what you are talking about, i suggest you seriously double think the next time you try to tell someone that sexual orientation is a choice
Go ahead and be upset, you are only going with the flow. You can whine and call me a bigot but what I said is true.
Also keep in mind that when I am talking about the Bible I am presenting the Christian view not personal views.
Yes we are familiar with your reality denying bigot cult views. Congrats on spreading the unfounded hate that helps to finally crush that annoying brain worm.
Congrats on thinking with only your emotions.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1105
What is proven is that they knew it was wrong AFTER eating the fruit and gaining knowledge of right and wrong. Before they were in a child like state of ignorance. The serpent is gods creation see also 3:1 I read at least three references to the snake being gods work and none refering to it as Satan. God even meted out perhaps the most severe punishment to the serpent (though how it was a serpent before god made it crawl on its belly and eat dust forever is never explained). And how did god not know they had done it and came asking instead of being all omniscient. Waltzing in and feigning ignorance is being obtuse and not godlike. Seriously logic holes all over.

So you dismiss the logic fail of the entire story by saying it didn't matter? Just making that clear.
Now you are the one being obtuse. It has already been explained: God very clearly told them not to eat the fruit. It wasn't implied, it was not a request. He told them: "do not eat the fruit, if you eat it you will die". Eve even repeated this to the serpent. They knew full well they were not supposed to eat the fruit stop making stupid arguments.
God created serpents according to the Bible, yes. Whether the serpent that tempted Eve was the Devil incarnate, a tool used by the Devil or just a real jerkish snake is not said directly, but that it had something to do with Satan is heavily implied many times in the scripture. It is also irrelevant to the fact that Adam and Eve knew they were not supposed to eat the fruit before they ate it and they were aware of the consequences.
Of course God would have known what they had done but he let them say it. Remember that he was the one who asked them if they had eaten the fruit.
Obviously you see the complete logic fail of the whole basic premise too it and it infuriates you so.

Look closely at 3:1 "now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the lord god had made". Additionally it sates god made all the animals in 2:19. So as far as the snake is concerned the fable is quite succinct in it being a jerkish snake god directly made.

More to the point in 3:21 god even says "the man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil". So NO they did not know full well as they had no idea of what is good or bad. Like a child not knowing something is right or wrong. In fact what you said about them being turned into gods is not factually correct for in 3:4 "for god knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be LIKE god, knowing good and evil". So in fact all it was is gaining knowledge. I can easily fool toddlers into disobeying rules they know they should follow because they cannot judge right from wrong very well and they tend to listen to others for guidance and fail to understand the concequences.

You claim that Adam and eve were geniuses beyond that of mortals - yet why would they do something so stupid? Oh yea! No idea of right and wrong lol.

So basically your god punishes those that chose to gain wisdom through knowledge. NOW THAT explains a lot!!! Keep being religious it makes you so easy to control.

Btw try actually quoting with the specific locations of the quotes. It dosent even look like you are seriously trying to debate.
There is no logic fail, I am just explaining the story. I explained it very simply but you are still quoting me wrong and either not comprehending, or just not wanted to admit you lose. Actually read what I said. How can you not understand that they knew they should not eat it? You do not have to know something is right or wrong to know not to do it. Even a toddler can be trained to come when called or to stay out of a room when told. Adam and Eve were smarter that toddlers.

But forget about explaining this, its obvious you just want to troll and have no intention of understanding. I hope I helped clear it up for any other readers.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1106
The end is near and the world has changed, all signs point toward it, science is amazing, yet doesn't provide us with all the answers and is still flawed, but when the day is here, I would love to see science save you.
I'm going to make a personal request here. Could you please refer to it as 'the end is neigh!'. It sounds way cooler in that unwashed street bum kinda religious way.
I swear, I don't blatantly disrespect your beliefs yet you show no consideration and have time after time disrespected mine, it's people like you that makes the planet horrible.
2 Peter 3:3-4 First of all know this, that in the last days ridiculers will come with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires+ 4 and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his?+ Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep in death, all things are continuing exactly as they were from creation’s beginning.”
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1107
As far as homosexuality, you are not born homosexual, you choose to be homosexual. Your arguments about God making people homosexual so he can watch them suffer are invalid.

Why does the Bible's God ban homosexuality and adultery? STD s (duh)
American High schools are a cesspool of STD s now.

The Biblical take on homosexual relationships is that they are wrong the same way adulterous relationships are wrong.

I will only give me personal opinion on homosexuality if it is asked for.

That is complete and utter *******, i have zero tolerance for bigots like you.
Homosexuals do not choose to be homosexual, they are born that way. It occurs in nearly EVERY sophisticated species on our planet, and humans are the only species of all that see it as any kind of threat to our way of life. It is also bigoted and homophobic to suggest that homosexuality is a cause, or catalyst for STD's because actually, there are fewer available people to have sex with if you are gay which means a smaller possible pool for spreading of disease.


You have no idea what you are talking about, i suggest you seriously double think the next time you try to tell someone that sexual orientation is a choice
I don’t hate homosexuals, but I can’t approve of their conduct. The Bible says: ‘Honor men of all sorts’ or, as Today’s English Version renders it, ‘Respect everyone.’ (1 Peter 2:17) Therefore, Christians are not homophobic. They show kindness to all people, including those who are gay.”—Matthew 7:12.

The Bible doesn’t comment on the biology of homosexuals, although it acknowledges that some traits are deeply ingrained. (2 Corinthians 10:4, 5) Even if some are oriented toward the same sex, the Bible tells Christians to shun homosexual acts.

Many claim that violent behavior can have a genetic root and that as a result, some people are predisposed to it. (Proverbs 29:22) What if that was true? As you might know, the Bible condemns fits of anger. (Psalm 37:8; Ephesians 4:31) Is that standard unfair just because some may be inclined toward violence?
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1108
“In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.”
― Carl Sagan

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire

“Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly, always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.”
― Emmett F. Fields

Since the new thing seems to be quoting... I think these make a point. One point out of billions that make up true knowledge and wisdom.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#1109
“In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.”
― Carl Sagan

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire

“Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly, always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.”
― Emmett F. Fields

Since the new thing seems to be quoting... I think these make a point. One point out of billions that make up true knowledge and wisdom.
Yea, God inspired quotes. Not imperfect human quotes. Atheism hasn't shown to be any better than even false religions.

Re: A discussion about religion

#1110
“In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.”
― Carl Sagan

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”
― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire

“Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly, always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.”
― Emmett F. Fields

Since the new thing seems to be quoting... I think these make a point. One point out of billions that make up true knowledge and wisdom.
Yea, God inspired quotes. Not imperfect human quotes. Atheism hasn't shown to be any better than even false religions.
You can not prove that the words of scripture are any more godly than the words of anything else. In essence, they are all "imperfect human quotes" and there is no hard evidence that says otherwise.
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