Celtic Heroes

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CbqNIbjcv_w


Watch this and then come back and tell me that evolution is perfectly reasonable.

We all lead the evidence to the conclusion that we want to accept.

As far as religion and evolution, absolutely. Also in many other areas.
The reason I claim no religion and also do not believe evolution is because of the way evidence is used by all sides to reach their own conclusions, but I am unconvinced and unsatisfied with any of the explanations.
As far as I have ever seen:
Evolution is not proven and I don't believe it is necessarily true, but I believe it is a possible explanation with insufficient evidence that may be proven some day.
The Bible is not proven and I don't believe it is necessarily true, but I believe it is a possible explanation with insufficient evidence that may be proven some day.
To the objective listener, both sides have arguments that make sense and arguments that are biased.

I still think the most likely explanation for the origin of the universe is that a god created it and no one has given anything like an intelligent argument to convince me otherwise. It makes sense that a god would be intelligent, so I am leaned towards intelligent design. This does not mean I believe that the god of the Bible is the answer, but I think it is one possibility.

Yes if you listen to stories they are equal. Look at real world hard facts and evidence - there is no comparison. Evolution has unbelievable amounts of evidence with no contradictory evidence while the bible is riddled with self contradictions and has many claims that are falsifiable through repeatable scientific testing.

The world is extremely fine grained. While we may use language to describe something like evolution the fact is that it is made up of something on the order of 10^45 particles which have undergone an equally mind boggling amount of steps of time. This means that for truthful things, like evolution, its facts all the way down - there is a near infinite amount of details you can examine at finer and finer scales all which reveal the same truth. Darwin had no idea what DNA even was and yet it knits all of life so intricately, precisely, and perfectly into his theory that it is beyond obvious - it is a cold hard fact. I mean FFS you can have your DNA tested to see how many Neanderthal genes you have because we have sampled bone marrow fragments and have sequenced the Neanderthal genome and have proof humans interbred with them sexually.

Though to people who cant think, use anecdotal stories instead of facts, and let themselves be convinced of comforting things to fit in with their peers - I can see how they could look like they had similar levels of credibility.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CbqNIbjcv_w


Watch this and then come back and tell me that evolution is perfectly reasonable.

Can I ask a question plus3? If its so easy to debunk then why don't you?

I would not use this type of thing for a source of knowledge on the evolution debate. It is much better to go to school and actually learn the science behind what you are talking about or being told about. People like this on both sides can very easily twist the evidence in their favor.

I don't trust "charismatic" speakers myself.

As far as religion and evolution, absolutely. Also in many other areas.
The reason I claim no religion and also do not believe evolution is because of the way evidence is used by all sides to reach their own conclusions, but I am unconvinced and unsatisfied with any of the explanations.
As far as I have ever seen:
Evolution is not proven and I don't believe it is necessarily true, but I believe it is a possible explanation with insufficient evidence that may be proven some day.
The Bible is not proven and I don't believe it is necessarily true, but I believe it is a possible explanation with insufficient evidence that may be proven some day.
To the objective listener, both sides have arguments that make sense and arguments that are biased.

I still think the most likely explanation for the origin of the universe is that a god created it and no one has given anything like an intelligent argument to convince me otherwise. It makes sense that a god would be intelligent, so I am leaned towards intelligent design. This does not mean I believe that the god of the Bible is the answer, but I think it is one possibility.

Yes if you listen to stories they are equal. Look at real world hard facts and evidence - there is no comparison. Evolution has unbelievable amounts of evidence with no contradictory evidence while the bible is riddled with self contradictions and has many claims that are falsifiable through repeatable scientific testing.

The world is extremely fine grained. While we may use language to describe something like evolution the fact is that it is made up of something on the order of 10^45 particles which have undergone an equally mind boggling amount of steps of time. This means that for truthful things, like evolution, its facts all the way down - there is a near infinite amount of details you can examine at finer and finer scales all which reveal the same truth. Darwin had no idea what DNA even was and yet it knits all of life so intricately, precisely, and perfectly into his theory that it is beyond obvious - it is a cold hard fact. I mean FFS you can have your DNA tested to see how many Neanderthal genes you have because we have sampled bone marrow fragments and have sequenced the Neanderthal genome and have proof humans interbred with them sexually.

Though to people who cant think, use anecdotal stories instead of facts, and let themselves be convinced of comforting things to fit in with their peers - I can see how they could look like they had similar levels of credibility.

I looked at the real "facts and evidence" as well, they are not convincing unless you want to believe one side or the other.

Yes Plus3, you have said it all before. We know you are biased toward one side and will always see facts as evidence for your side. I am seriously only seeing your arguments as trolling because you have said it all before and it is just as unconvincing now.

Can I ask a question plus3? If its so easy to debunk then why don't you?

Its because you cant debate that - acknowledging it drags everyone down to that level and adds some small amount of credibility that it does not deserve. Its not based on evidence or logic. He is soooooooo far off the deep end of insanity even the creationists don't take him seriously.

I would not use this type of thing for a source of knowledge on the evolution debate. It is much better to go to school and actually learn the science behind what you are talking about or being told about. People like this on both sides can very easily twist the evidence in their favor.

I don't trust "charismatic" speakers myself.

In a first I think i'm going to agree with EdElric on the above post. That man and the stuff he spews really is garbage and not part of a serious debate. Use evidence such as peer reviewed journal articles - its far better and people will take you much more seriously.

Reading these newer posts. I see Atheists are whining because they can't handle the fact of a presence higher then them.

It's like they want to be adults and do whatever they want, without rules. Therefore, I find that Atheists are mostly denying religion because they want to have control.

Bad childhood perhaps?