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Re: A discussion about religion

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Explain the crusades then
And if you are implying what i suspect, that the Muslim god Allah is a false god, then you are a racist bigot.
I may have mis interpreted your words though so i give you the benefit of the doubt.
I'm racist because I don't have faith in Allah?! What in the world are you saying pigman?!

Also, in response to your Crusades remark - more crap from a pope. I do not follow the pope.
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Re: A discussion about religion

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Amen

As Christians finish their prayers, which they send through the “son of God”, they say “amen”, which I learned in church meant “so be it”. A little study shows something slightly different. The word derives from an ancient Egyptian god, Amen-Ra or Amun-Ra. Amun was an old god, but as his cult grew larger, he became associated with Ra-Herakhty (Ra + Horus, the gods of the “sun”-worshipers) who sent their prayers through the “sun of god”, Amen-Ra.
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Israel

What is Israel? Is this a real place? The country we refer to as Israel is very recent. Many people assume this is what is spoken of in the Bible, but it was not called Israel. It was part of a territory called “Canaan” which included modern-day Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, and parts of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. A brief look into the etymology of the word reveals something interesting.

Isis was part of the Egyptian trinity with her husband and brother Osiris and their son, Horus, literally the sun and son of god. (In the later merging of sun-cults, Horus was combined with Ra and was known as Ra-Herakhty).

Ra is an ancient Egyptian sun god, mostly associated with the midday sun, but of which all other gods were a form.

El means “god” or “God” in Hebrew and other Semitic languages (plural “elohim”), but was also the father god of the Canaanites.

As you can see from the pattern, when two sun-worshiping cults merged, they merged the names of their gods, as in Ra + Horus = Ra-Herakhty and Amun + Ra-Herakhty = Amun-Ra. Isn’t it interesting that Isis + Ra + El = Israel?

Israel was a term for the merging of the cults in the land of Canaan, and armed with this knowledge, you can decode some of the mysteries of the Torah and the Bible.

Christmas, Paganism, and the Winter Solstice

The winter solstice was known as “Yule” in old Europe, from the Norse “jul” meaning “wheel”. It is the Pagan celebration of Light and the rebirth of the sun, which goes around a “wheel” or “cycle” through the zodiac. The winter solstice is the longest night of the year and as it approached people were worried it would disappear and not return, so they celebrated the light in the hopes that the sun would return quickly. In Rev 22:16 Jesus says: “I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star”. What is the morning star? Why do Christians worship on SUNday? Reread the Bible, interchanging sun with son, and you’ll begin to get the idea of what Israel means and where Christianity came from.

The ancient Romans celebrated Saturnalia, a tribute to Saturn, beginning December 17th, during which evergreen trees were decorated with fruits and other ornaments.
On the winter solstice, the sun is at it’s southernmost position of the year, over the Tropic of Capricorn (so named because this occurs when the sun is in Capricorn; similarly with the Tropic of Cancer and the summer solstice, and the Equator at the two equinoxes). The ancients believed that the sun had actually died. The sun remained at this place of death, near the Southern Cross (“Crux”) for 3 days, then the sun (read “son”) rose again, one degree in the sky, signifying that the days would begin to get longer and the light of the world would again overcome darkness. The birth of the sun/son was celebrated, on December 25, after receiving this sign, and again at the Vernal Equinox (Spring, Easter) because it is at that point the night and day are equal and from that point forward the sun will overpower the darkness and evil, or devil.

We find that the whole story of the birth of Jesus is encoded in the stars. On December 25, we are in the sign of Capricorn. At sunrise on that day, the Earth has rotated 180 degrees, and the sun rises in Cancer. There is a constellation in Cancer known as the manger. To the east, at sunrise, is Virgo, the virgin mother, overlooking the sun’s birth in the manger. To the west is Taurus. Inside Taurus is Orion. The three stars in the belt of Orion are known as the “three kings”. At the time of the sun’s birth, if you draw an imaginary line through the three kings and the bright star, Sirius, it point’s to the horizon (from “Horus” the sun/son of god) at sunrise. This is the star leading the “three kings” to the “virgin” birth of the “bright and morning star” in the “manger”. Gold symbolized the sun. Frankincense and myrrh were fragrances burned at solar temples. These were gifts to the sun/son.

Jesus and Lucifer

Again, in Revelations 22:16 Jesus states: “I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star”. What is the definition of Lucifer? “Morning star”.
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Re: A discussion about religion

#133
Explain the crusades then
And if you are implying what i suspect, that the Muslim god Allah is a false god, then you are a racist bigot.
I may have mis interpreted your words though so i give you the benefit of the doubt.
I'm racist because I don't have faith in Allah?! What in the world are you saying pigman?!

Also, in response to your Crusades remark - more crap from a pope. I do not follow the pope.
No, you're racist for not respecting others that pray to him. You were the one offended when the op posted that god/ Jesus didn't exist, you don't think Muslims would be offended the same way as you singled them out saying their diety didn't exist?
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Re: A discussion about religion

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We find that the whole story of the birth of Jesus is encoded in the stars. On December 25, we are in the sign of Capricorn. At sunrise on that day, the Earth has rotated 180 degrees, and the sun rises in Cancer. There is a constellation in Cancer known as the manger. To the east, at sunrise, is Virgo, the virgin mother, overlooking the sun’s birth in the manger. To the west is Taurus. Inside Taurus is Orion. The three stars in the belt of Orion are known as the “three kings”. At the time of the sun’s birth, if you draw an imaginary line through the three kings and the bright star, Sirius, it point’s to the horizon (from “Horus” the sun/son of god) at sunrise. This is the star leading the “three kings” to the “virgin” birth of the “bright and morning star” in the “manger”. Gold symbolized the sun. Frankincense and myrrh were fragrances burned at solar temples. These were gifts to the sun/son.
Maybe people named all of these because of the manger, the virgin Mary, the three kings, and the birth of the Light of the world, or Christ. Is there anyway you can explain that idea?
Jesus and Lucifer

Again, in Revelations 22:16 Jesus states: “I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star”. What is the definition of Lucifer? “Morning star”.
Please inform my ignorant self, where is Lucifer entitled the Morning star?


One thing I want to quickly say about Evolution, is that which has been said before, if we all came (basically) from "gelatinous gloop", then where did that come from? Also, if we all came from chance, that was one lucky roll of a die with near-infinitive sides, for example, we have billions of neurons in our body, that all work together to convey sensory perceptions, that is mind boggling how impossible the chances that they all appeared and worked together so perfectly. Another example is DNA, how is it possible for humans to have miles of DNA codes, each unique to a certain person, is there any way anyone can explain this? 'Cause its been bugging me and is the main reason I don't agree with the evolutionist idea. Also procreation, which might have been mentioned earlier, (I kinda got overwhelmed by all these interesting opinions and beliefs) there must have been a really, really fast evolution for the "gelatinous gloop" or the things that came out of it first, to procreate and create more copies of itself, unless they lived a coupla thousand years long.

Also, what has been posted about how God was created, I just want to agree that he is infinite, always has been there always will be. There is the concept of infinity in everything, but science is one place where it is seen quite often, think of lines, they go on forever and ever without end.

I don't mean to be bashing people and their religion, and I respect everyone and their beliefs. I also admit that everyone's idea of a god could all stem from one being.
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Re: A discussion about religion

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I told myself I would not post... Sigh, and here I am. We all have our own opinions and nothing can be 100% proven.

I believe, and I am not stating this is the correct belief, that there are infinite possibilties and one must make decisions based on evidence that they have gathered and analysed of their own accord.

With that in mind, I will not simply accept "this is the way it is" or "this is what happened." I go to a school/Uni and I am given evidence which I will, perhaps later on in life, understand as most likely or least likely.

It is also part of my belief that while you are given evidence, it is up to you to consider them fact or, as I all ready mentioned, "most/least likely." To impose an idea as 100% truth with no other possibility is, in my opinion, absurd.

One could hear stories of God, perhaps visit a temple, and gain a new understanding that would make the idea of God "most likely." Likewise, I may hear that fire is hot and place my hand in the fire to find out for myself (scientific method) or learn about the Galápagos Islands and now consider the idea of evolution "most likely."

There are a variety of examples and each time there will be a "most likely" or "least likely." Even all I have written so far is just opinion/evidence of which I consider "most likely" because of the experience I have gained so far in life. Ideas change, life changes, and you change.
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Re: A discussion about religion

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Lucifer has always been known as the morning star, he was the brightest and most powerful of all angels. He saw that god had more power and felt that he should share in that power. He out shone himself.

A good read that tells the story in great detail of lucifer is paradise lost- John Milton
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Re: A discussion about religion

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We find that the whole story of the birth of Jesus is encoded in the stars. On December 25, we are in the sign of Capricorn. At sunrise on that day, the Earth has rotated 180 degrees, and the sun rises in Cancer. There is a constellation in Cancer known as the manger. To the east, at sunrise, is Virgo, the virgin mother, overlooking the sun’s birth in the manger. To the west is Taurus. Inside Taurus is Orion. The three stars in the belt of Orion are known as the “three kings”. At the time of the sun’s birth, if you draw an imaginary line through the three kings and the bright star, Sirius, it point’s to the horizon (from “Horus” the sun/son of god) at sunrise. This is the star leading the “three kings” to the “virgin” birth of the “bright and morning star” in the “manger”. Gold symbolized the sun. Frankincense and myrrh were fragrances burned at solar temples. These were gifts to the sun/son.
Maybe people named all of these because of the manger, the virgin Mary, the three kings, and the birth of the Light of the world, or Christ. Is there anyway you can explain that idea?
Jesus and Lucifer

Again, in Revelations 22:16 Jesus states: “I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star”. What is the definition of Lucifer? “Morning star”.
Please inform my ignorant self, where is Lucifer entitled the Morning star?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer#Lu ... rning_star

Consider your ignorant self informed.
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Re: A discussion about religion

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We find that the whole story of the birth of Jesus is encoded in the stars. On December 25, we are in the sign of Capricorn. At sunrise on that day, the Earth has rotated 180 degrees, and the sun rises in Cancer. There is a constellation in Cancer known as the manger. To the east, at sunrise, is Virgo, the virgin mother, overlooking the sun’s birth in the manger. To the west is Taurus. Inside Taurus is Orion. The three stars in the belt of Orion are known as the “three kings”. At the time of the sun’s birth, if you draw an imaginary line through the three kings and the bright star, Sirius, it point’s to the horizon (from “Horus” the sun/son of god) at sunrise. This is the star leading the “three kings” to the “virgin” birth of the “bright and morning star” in the “manger”. Gold symbolized the sun. Frankincense and myrrh were fragrances burned at solar temples. These were gifts to the sun/son.
Maybe people named all of these because of the manger, the virgin Mary, the three kings, and the birth of the Light of the world, or Christ. Is there anyway you can explain that idea?
Jesus and Lucifer

Again, in Revelations 22:16 Jesus states: “I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star”. What is the definition of Lucifer? “Morning star”.
Please inform my ignorant self, where is Lucifer entitled the Morning star?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer#Lu ... rning_star

Consider your ignorant self informed.
Common mistake, the Lucifer defined in the Bible is "light bearer".
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Re: A discussion about religion

#139
Explain the crusades then
And if you are implying what i suspect, that the Muslim god Allah is a false god, then you are a racist bigot.
I may have mis interpreted your words though so i give you the benefit of the doubt.
I'm racist because I don't have faith in Allah?! What in the world are you saying pigman?!

Also, in response to your Crusades remark - more crap from a pope. I do not follow the pope.
No, you're racist for not respecting others that pray to him. You were the one offended when the op posted that god/ Jesus didn't exist, you don't think Muslims would be offended the same way as you singled them out saying their diety didn't exist?
Sorry to all I have offended, but that is in no way racism.
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Re: A discussion about religion

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We find that the whole story of the birth of Jesus is encoded in the stars. On December 25, we are in the sign of Capricorn. At sunrise on that day, the Earth has rotated 180 degrees, and the sun rises in Cancer. There is a constellation in Cancer known as the manger. To the east, at sunrise, is Virgo, the virgin mother, overlooking the sun’s birth in the manger. To the west is Taurus. Inside Taurus is Orion. The three stars in the belt of Orion are known as the “three kings”. At the time of the sun’s birth, if you draw an imaginary line through the three kings and the bright star, Sirius, it point’s to the horizon (from “Horus” the sun/son of god) at sunrise. This is the star leading the “three kings” to the “virgin” birth of the “bright and morning star” in the “manger”. Gold symbolized the sun. Frankincense and myrrh were fragrances burned at solar temples. These were gifts to the sun/son.
Maybe people named all of these because of the manger, the virgin Mary, the three kings, and the birth of the Light of the world, or Christ. Is there anyway you can explain that idea?
Jesus and Lucifer

Again, in Revelations 22:16 Jesus states: “I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star”. What is the definition of Lucifer? “Morning star”.
Please inform my ignorant self, where is Lucifer entitled the Morning star?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer#Lu ... rning_star

Consider your ignorant self informed.
Very interesting, I am now informed. :lol:

Something i forgot to tag on to this paragraph here I wrote earlier:
One thing I want to quickly say about Evolution, is that which has been said before, if we all came (basically) from "gelatinous gloop", then where did that come from? Also, if we all came from chance, that was one lucky roll of a die with near-infinitive sides, for example, we have billions of neurons in our body, that all work together to convey sensory perceptions, that is mind boggling how impossible the chances that they all appeared and worked together so perfectly. Another example is DNA, how is it possible for humans to have miles of DNA codes, each unique to a certain person, is there any way anyone can explain this? 'Cause its been bugging me and is the main reason I don't agree with the evolutionist idea. Also procreation, which might have been mentioned earlier, (I kinda got overwhelmed by all these interesting opinions and beliefs) there must have been a really, really fast evolution for the "gelatinous gloop" or the things that came out of it first, to procreate and create more copies of itself, unless they lived a coupla thousand years long.

What I forgot to add is that this is just focusing on humans, the odds against that one chance are enormously multiplied once the thousands of species of animals are factored into the equation, with all their unique makeups (although not nearly as intricate as ours). Not to mention all the plant species, as well as the very ecosystem of our planet, the perfect distance from the sun, and more.

Also, in regard to Pigman's post that evolution is not being pressed onto children in schools these days, I have to respectfully disagree, evolution is mentioned (usually in great depth) in most classes, psychology, the many types of science, and others, it isn't exactly being "pressed in", its more of the fact that people are being immersed in it, which could lead to them being influenced by it. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing to an evolutionist, but might disrupt the beliefs of other people.
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