Celtic Heroes

Yes, I agree, we do not take climate change seriously. It may even come to a point where we were too busy arguing over it to realise it is too late. I am surprised this topic did not spark a larger debate...

Anyhow, I found this uh picture... Which has me wonder again: why is religion so "my way or the high way"? You either believe or you are doomed. That does not seem logical.

In the qur'an, a book that has not been altered even a word since the day it was revealed(couple thousand years ago) god says:
(51:56)"And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me."

(55:13) "so Which of these favours of your lord will you deny?"

Yes, I agree, we do not take climate change seriously. It may even come to a point where we were too busy arguing over it to realise it is too late. I am surprised this topic did not spark a larger debate...

Anyhow, I found this uh picture... Which has me wonder again: why is religion so "my way or the high way"? You either believe or you are doomed. That does not seem logical.

Yes, I agree, we do not take climate change seriously. It may even come to a point where we were too busy arguing over it to realise it is too late. I am surprised this topic did not spark a larger debate...

Anyhow, I found this uh picture... Which has me wonder again: why is religion so "my way or the high way"? You either believe or you are doomed. That does not seem logical.

Technically this is a logical fallacy: believing something does not make it true or decide who will or won't perish.

Switch "if you believe in ____ " with " if _____ is correct" and it would be a more valid argument.

Also I would argue that if there is no afterlife then everyone perishes because everyone dies and is dead permanently (unless you believe in reincarnation).

Technically this is a logical fallacy: believing something does not make it true or decide who will or won't perish.

Switch "if you believe in ____ " with " if _____ is correct" and it would be a more valid argument.

Also I would argue that if there is no afterlife then everyone perishes because everyone dies and is dead permanently (unless you believe in reincarnation).

Technically this is a logical fallacy: believing something does not make it true or decide who will or won't perish.

Switch "if you believe in ____ " with " if _____ is correct" and it would be a more valid argument.

Also I would argue that if there is no afterlife then everyone perishes because everyone dies and is dead permanently (unless you believe in reincarnation).

You are quite right, believing something does not make it true or decide fate and that is exactly what the point is.

The bottom line is that specific religions follow a "my way or the high way" approach where some group of people will suffer simply because of a different belief or lack of. That is the argument.

Your argument at the end is not entirely correct, at least the way I see it. If there is no afterlife then everyone perishes...eventually. Not at the same time. Human lives are timed but humanity can go on forever.

I doubt humanity can or will go on forever, not while so many are hell-bent on the destruction of the rest.

I agree with all of that. It's just that performing late 3rd trimester abortions because after 8 months the person changed thier mind is a bit iffy in almost anyone's eyes. It's my personal opinion the more well formed and functional the brain is the more I would feel bad about destroying it because of a change of plans. In pretty much every moral view it goes from not a person at all to a person who should have some basic rights.

As a father I thought it was neat seeing my son and daughter on ultrasound but made my best effort not to become too attached until they were actually much further along - being born was the moment I became really attached. Proverbially I didn't want to count them before I felt nearly sure they would hatch.

I don't have a problem with seeing that the issue is made up of nearly countless details that gradually - almost continuously - flow from one state to the next, but there do have to be some kind of limits to stop ignorant people from running on rampages even if there is no clear defining moment. Ffs some people use abortion as a form of birth control and have literally dozens - many of which would be late term if allowed - that has to hit some kind of irresponsibility bar in nearly anyone's eyes at some point.

There do need to be some laws governing morality otherwise that 1/1000 idiot with a defective brain will take advantage of it and start ruining it for others. Two wrongs often make justice - it's why jails and legal repercussions exist. The vast majority of people can't reason on fine scale terms as the quotes you provided - they are simply not capable - and need something concrete. There could always be an appeals process to look at each case if needed like any other legal matter.