Celtic Heroes

It is just my theory of what the Bible is implying.
It is true that the average life span may be increasing, but that is due to improvements in medicine, not superior genetics.

I do not necessarily believe that genetics are decaying, I am just theorizing that that is what the Bible is implying.
Unless I say something like: "It is my personal belief", then it is probably not my personal belief and I posted it to spur on the discussion.
Not saying this to try and pick on Vraelan, I just wanted to clarify the meaning of my posts.

Ahh, sorry. I thought you answered my question and referenced the bible. It is a sound theory from the point of view of the bible I suppose.

The larger question I ponder is basically when does the "magic" stop and why?

@ Plus3:

Religious choice Labeled as child abuse?
Have you no realization of America's History?

That seems Illogical to me.

@ Plus3:

Religious choice Labeled as child abuse?
Have you no realization of America's History?

That seems Illogical to me.

Sadly I probably know more American history than you and have neglected my studies.

And yes when people lie to children - mislead them knowingly about facts - teach them it's ok to make believe what is real despite evidence - scare them with threats of hell and abandonment of friends, family, peers to get them to conform - then yea it is child abuse. All it does is serve thier religious agenda of pumping money in to keep the system going. All knowing, all powerful, but somehow bad with money god. It actually does quite a bit of harm to the child and world.

And yes I said it would never happen.

Believe what u want._. This topic so old.____.

One thing plus3 if 1 out of every 8 public schools teaches creationism then why don't u take ur kids to one of the other 7 schools that teach evolution. I don't know about your neighborhood, but my town has a good amount of schools within driving distance. Even if ur town doesn't have many schools there are most likely other towns with schools around you which u could take ur kids to. I also don't want to hear that the school is to far away; which is more important to u; ur kids education or ur comfort? If u want ur kids to learn evolution then u have options. U could even(gasp) homeschool ur kids. Personally i think u should let hem stay in the school that teaches creation. (Insert something mean that i wanted to say but won't cause its insulting here).

One thing plus3 if 1 out of every 8 public schools teaches creationism then why don't u take ur kids to one of the other 7 schools that teach evolution. I don't know about your neighborhood, but my town has a good amount of schools within driving distance. Even if ur town doesn't have many schools there are most likely other towns with schools around you which u could take ur kids to. I also don't want to hear that the school is to far away; which is more important to u; ur kids education or ur comfort? If u want ur kids to learn evolution then u have options. U could even(gasp) homeschool ur kids. Personally i think u should let hem stay in the school that teaches creation. (Insert something mean that i wanted to say but won't cause its insulting here).

Sometimes it is not about distance but zoning. You are zoned to go to the closest school to your home address. The only way out of that is going to a private school, magnet school, IB world, etc.

Homeschooling may be more effective, however, it does not have the same weight in our society as going to school. Homeschooled students are considered to not get a real education, learn outdated/incorrect information, etc. That is the wrong conclusion in my opinion but unfortunately it is the general consensus of our society and you would have a much more difficult time getting into a "good" college.

Personally, I think our children should follow what the most hard evidence points to. Our knowledge that we pass on should be something that even if all record of it were destroyed, we could eventually figure it out again.

@ Plus3:

Religious choice Labeled as child abuse?
Have you no realization of America's History?

That seems Illogical to me.

Sadly I probably know more American history than you and have neglected my studies.

And yes when people lie to children - mislead them knowingly about facts - teach them it's ok to make believe what is real despite evidence - scare them with threats of hell and abandonment of friends, family, peers to get them to conform - then yea it is child abuse. All it does is serve thier religious agenda of pumping money in to keep the system going. All knowing, all powerful, but somehow bad with money god. It actually does quite a bit of harm to the child and world.

And yes I said it would never happen.

Then the children can do what you did. go to the lying Atheists.

I also want to bring up seeing is not believing. Have you personally be up in space? Can you say "I saw in person Earth being round!". If not, why do you believe its round? I believe in God, even though Humans have no way within our Mortal restraints to see him.

@ Plus3:

Religious choice Labeled as child abuse?
Have you no realization of America's History?

That seems Illogical to me.

Sadly I probably know more American history than you and have neglected my studies.

And yes when people lie to children - mislead them knowingly about facts - teach them it's ok to make believe what is real despite evidence - scare them with threats of hell and abandonment of friends, family, peers to get them to conform - then yea it is child abuse. All it does is serve thier religious agenda of pumping money in to keep the system going. All knowing, all powerful, but somehow bad with money god. It actually does quite a bit of harm to the child and world.

And yes I said it would never happen.

Then the children can do what you did. go to the lying Atheists.

I also want to bring up seeing is not believing. Have you personally be up in space? Can you say "I saw in person Earth being round!". If not, why do you believe its round? I believe in God, even though Humans have no way within our Mortal restraints to see him.

Just want to say that we can see him but only if he lets us. This being said, at least 90% of those who claim to have seen God have not.

Why do people in the bible have longer lives...? What changed?

Just my theory but I think we can infer from the scripture that Adam and Eve were originally created with perfect bodies that did not die but after the fall they started to die. Genetically their bodies were far better than ours and so the closer people were to the beginning the more perfect their genes would be. So something like the perfection of our genetics is decreasing and our bodies are becoming less resistant to age would make sense from this point of view.
(Notice as the Bible progresses people's average life spans decrease)

Hey Ed glad ur back. My personnal theory and it is shared by others is that in the beginning when God created the earth, there was a layer of water around the earth(or something similar to what we have today, except much more powerful) that kept out the harmful UV rays from the sun that cause decay. This would also account for where the water for the flood came from.

Also while im on the subject of the flood, ken ham answered very nicely why the ark might not have leaked( why the ship wouldn't twist and turn. Also if u look at the dimensions if the ark, the way that it was built made it almost impossible to capsize unless it was flipped upside down. Also if we are going to assume that the biblical account of Noah is true then we have to assume that God was involved. U really think that the most powerful, all-knowing being of all couldnt build a boat that wouldn't sink? Also during the Flood God probably protected the ark. Another thing is that Noah would have had plenty of time to build the ark as it was at least 50 years(more like 100) from when God spoke to Noah until the Flood.

Edit: looked up the story and found out that it was more like 100 years not 200. Oops.

Why do people in the bible have longer lives...? What changed?

Just my theory but I think we can infer from the scripture that Adam and Eve were originally created with perfect bodies that did not die but after the fall they started to die. Genetically their bodies were far better than ours and so the closer people were to the beginning the more perfect their genes would be. So something like the perfection of our genetics is decreasing and our bodies are becoming less resistant to age would make sense from this point of view.
(Notice as the Bible progresses people's average life spans decrease)

Hey Ed glad ur back. My personnal theory and it is shared by others is that in the beginning when God created the earth, there was a layer of water around the earth(or something similar to what we have today, except much more powerful) that kept out the harmful UV rays from the sun that cause decay. This would also account for where the water for the flood came from.

Also while im on the subject of the flood, ken ham answered very nicely why the ark might not have leaked( why the ship wouldn't twist and turn. Also if u look at the dimensions if the ark, the way that it was built made it almost impossible to capsize unless it was flipped upside down. Also if we are going to assume that the biblical account of Noah is true then we have to assume that God was involved. U really think that the most powerful, all-knowing being of all couldnt build a boat that wouldn't sink? Also during the Flood God probably protected the ark. Another thing is that Noah would have had plenty of time to build the ark as it was at least 50 years(more like 100) from when God spoke to Noah until the Flood.

Edit: looked up the story and found out that it was more like 100 years not 200. Oops.

My problem is not really how the ark could have made it, how the animals fit, etc but rather... why? In fact, I will edit the end of one of your sentences above: "U really think that the most powerful, all-knowing being of all couldnt [just eliminate the people he/she/it deemed bad for the world]?"