Re: A discussion about religion
#203True dat... though I would assume Donald Trump would call it fake, and lobby to have Jesus' long form birth record releasedI think if we had the actual Birth Record of Jesus it would probably be worth more than the Mona Lisa![]()

Not sure if you are directing this comment at me because I talked about the historical Jesus and the fact that his birth (nor death for that matter) could be nailed down, or if you are talking more generally.To provide further explanation: christian holidays are representations of the events, Christmas, Easter, etc to form the Liturgical Calendar. They are not exact timelines of when things happened. They never claimed to be. But people love to say nonsense like: "Jesus was born in the summer not the winter!!" and use these statements as some kind of Anti-Christian proof. The truth is no one really knows for sure when certain events took place (other than private revelation).
If to me, then yes, I am well aware of that, I agree with you completely I would add that it doesn't even matter when he was born or other events happened. Yes, festivals were often transposed on older festivals etc. as a way of assimilation or whatnot, but I don't care about that at all. I don't think it does anything to harm the true meaning of it all, and I can't see how it would have any real anti-Christian basis.
Unfortunately, there are some in the Christian or Jewish faiths that fail to look at the meaning, and instead are insistent that the Bible be taken as 100% fact... or that (as Spirit said above) that "the bible is not only historically correct but also scientifically correct," when in fact it isn't.
Spirit, and others like him, is obviously entitled to his view... though I think it incorrect, and ignorant of evidence.
No matter, I've read it a couple times, and it is indeed a good book, no matter if some parts are fiction or not.
Well, the same argument could be made for several texts throughout history. Some being religious in nature, some not. I agree it isn't a coincidence... but I disagree with the implied meaning (sorry if I have read too much into the statement).We take the word of many different people over a thousand years who had no connection to each other in any way yet they all wrote the same thing. It's called The Bible.
Coincidence? It's highly unlikely.
Jews collected writings to form the Tanakh, Christians took that and compiled more to make the Christan Bible, people assembled the Quran/Koran which built upon the Juda/Christian base, the Nihon Shoki is a compilation of old Japanese writings, the Book of the Dead collects like writings, Buddhist and Hindu collections, and even books like The Art of War, or Tao Te Ching are often considered collections of wisdom and not the works of single men.
So no it isn't a coincidence... someone along the way decides to collect like terms under one roof, sure... but so does the Norton Anthology

To be honest, I am less intrigued with what was collected to form the Bible so much as I am interested in why others were left from the canon. Other Gospels and other writings that were once part of the entire body of teaching, that either faded away, or were forced underground through edict.
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Re: A discussion about religion
#204This should be really renamed discussion about Christianity from all jve read in this topic
Re: A discussion about religion
#206That gave me a good laugh

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Re: A discussion about religion
#207I partly belive the things I'm told. I don't think that the story about Adam and Eve is real. I also belive that the big bang happened-but- what did cause the big bang- thats where the scientists are acctually clueless.
I belive in god as I often prayed and reached what I prayed for
I belive in god as I often prayed and reached what I prayed for
Re: A discussion about religion
#208Actually a new theory is being explored that the universe was created inside a black hole (http://www.insidescience.org/content/ev ... iverse/566). I'll let you read the article to learn more about the science of it, because it was written by people much smarter than I am. What I thought was cool is that if in fact our universe is inside a black hole, we must recognize that our universe has many black holes inside of it. That means that our universe is home to many other universes. If this is true that black holes contain an enitre universe, all the multitudes of universes from all the black holes would take the shape of a tree branching out into infinity.I also belive that the big bang happened-but- what did cause the big bang- thats where the scientists are acctually clueless.
In turn, the torsion mechanism suggests an astonishing scenario: every black hole would produce a new, baby universe inside. If that is true, then the first matter in our universe came from somewhere else. So our own universe could be the interior of a black hole existing in another universe. Just as we cannot see what is going on inside black holes in the cosmos, any observers in the parent universe could not see what is going on in ours.
Re: A discussion about religion
#209You guys need to all step back and just let people think what they want. Personally, I don't believe in anything that cannot be backed by science, but I dont dislike people who do. Dont try to change others opinions, just let them think what they want.
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Re: A discussion about religion
#210One does not believe in science... or at least one aught not.You guys need to all step back and just let people think what they want. Personally, I don't believe in anything that cannot be backed by science, but I dont dislike people who do. Dont try to change others opinions, just let them think what they want.
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