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In fact earlier this year science proved that load bearing domesticated camels didn't come untill 200 years after Jesus making all references to camels in the bible fake. But it's not like the 100,000 th fact proven wrong really makes a difference at this point.

How exactly did it prove this? It doesn't make sense that no one before 200 A.D. would have thought of using camels for beasts of burden. I mean they are strong, can go far, and have horrible tempers.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/02/ ... -in-bible/

If fox news admits the bible is wrong then that's pretty much incontrovertable science because of thier political leaning. It was done through an analysis of the bone structures of camels unearthed in the middle east.

I might try and get back to you on this stuff. Were i live its time to go nighty-night.

In fact earlier this year science proved that load bearing domesticated camels didn't come untill 200 years after Jesus making all references to camels in the bible fake. But it's not like the 100,000 th fact proven wrong really makes a difference at this point.

This is the most stupid post yet!
So your basically saying Jesus prophicied camels being domestic animals for transportation and delivery?!
Another proof of Jesus telling the future?

I dont believe in these amazing and genius scientists that claims this, and this also CONTRADICTS ITS SELF IN ATHEIST'S THEORIES.

Atheists just get funnier and funnier

Um, it is not about disproving religion... The burden of proof lies on religion. Otherwise, you can not disprove something that was never viable in the first place.

For instance, what would you say if I told you to disprove Ancient Greek religion (mythology)? How could you prove that the bible is any more reliable than Ancient Greek scripture?

Um, it is not about disproving religion... The burden of proof lies on religion. Otherwise, you can not disprove something that was never viable in the first place.

For instance, what would you say if I told you to disprove Ancient Greek religion (mythology)? How could you prove that the bible is any more reliable than Ancient Greek scripture?

You cant, also i'll tell u what ithink not about the religion, what i think about this thread only

ppl here are arguing about stuff that they shouldnt or even cant argue about, 'prove it' , 'no u disprove it', u cant do both, u cant prove, and u cant disprove, its matter of belief, its either u do or u dont, and not only u cant just change someone's mind about his belief or religion, u shouldnt do it, theres a say that says (in hebrew, cant say how is it in english), 'each one with his belief will live', which means, every person can believe in whatever they want, childs believe in monsters, disprove it, or maybe u think these childs can prove monsters exist?


I believe in judaism, and if i would get involved in this arguement (u can call it discussion, but all u do is arguing), i wouldnt change my mind at all, so its rather useless, i also believe that ppl shouldnt try to explain someone why the thing they believe at doesnt exist, i dont care who does it, and who to, this something that shouldnt be done.

You can be jewish and u will believe in that only, and u will be proud, u can be atheist, and u will be proud, u can be muslim, and u will be proud, and u wont change ur mind that easily, and even atheists, dont they have a belief? They believe that there isnt any good, that is superior to us, and is incharge to everything, they believe that they're ppl for themselves, and nothing is decided by some god.


I simply believe that there is something superior to us, if its god or not, if its destiny or not, i also believe that we're those who decide our destiny and future, and what that 'superior being' does, is to just make it real, for me as a jewish person that 'superior being' is God, and i go by my own religion's ways, either if its true or false, thats why IMO this thread is useless, and just gets annoying that someone always revives this thread which should have been long gone by now.

In fact earlier this year science proved that load bearing domesticated camels didn't come untill 200 years after Jesus making all references to camels in the bible fake. But it's not like the 100,000 th fact proven wrong really makes a difference at this point.

This is the most stupid post yet!
So your basically saying Jesus prophicied camels being domestic animals for transportation and delivery?!
Another proof of Jesus telling the future?

I dont believe in these amazing and genius scientists that claims this, and this also CONTRADICTS ITS SELF IN ATHEIST'S THEORIES.

Atheists just get funnier and funnier

Lol you are too much. It is proof the bible is a lie and written a hundred years or more after the fact.

Um, it is not about disproving religion... The burden of proof lies on religion. Otherwise, you can not disprove something that was never viable in the first place.

For instance, what would you say if I told you to disprove Ancient Greek religion (mythology)? How could you prove that the bible is any more reliable than Ancient Greek scripture?

You cant, also i'll tell u what ithink not about the religion, what i think about this thread only

ppl here are arguing about stuff that they shouldnt or even cant argue about, 'prove it' , 'no u disprove it', u cant do both, u cant prove, and u cant disprove, its matter of belief, its either u do or u dont, and not only u cant just change someone's mind about his belief or religion, u shouldnt do it, theres a say that says (in hebrew, cant say how is it in english), 'each one with his belief will live', which means, every person can believe in whatever they want, childs believe in monsters, disprove it, or maybe u think these childs can prove monsters exist?


I believe in judaism, and if i would get involved in this arguement (u can call it discussion, but all u do is arguing), i wouldnt change my mind at all, so its rather useless, i also believe that ppl shouldnt try to explain someone why the thing they believe at doesnt exist, i dont care who does it, and who to, this something that shouldnt be done.

You can be jewish and u will believe in that only, and u will be proud, u can be atheist, and u will be proud, u can be muslim, and u will be proud, and u wont change ur mind that easily, and even atheists, dont they have a belief? They believe that there isnt any good, that is superior to us, and is incharge to everything, they believe that they're ppl for themselves, and nothing is decided by some god.


I simply believe that there is something superior to us, if its god or not, if its destiny or not, i also believe that we're those who decide our destiny and future, and what that 'superior being' does, is to just make it real, for me as a jewish person that 'superior being' is God, and i go by my own religion's ways, either if its true or false, thats why IMO this thread is useless, and just gets annoying that someone always revives this thread which should have been long gone by now.

It's obvious we all live in the same reality. It's obvious and a fact the universe works by simple natural laws and technology is quite solid evidence of that. There are truths that are Objectively true no matter how much people want to disbelieve.

Is the fact the sun exists an opinion? Is gravitation an opinion? How about electromagnetic radiation such as light? Evolution? The internet? None of these require faith or opinion to be true and none require people at ALL to be true.

When your magic wish thinking flies in the face of facts the it is just provably wrong. If you are one of the few people who can keep it in your pants and accept reality and wish think your mythology into the cracks in knowledge then good for you. But don't complain when those shrinking cracks eventually remove it from all plausible reality.

The massive difference between typical atheists and typical religious people is simple. Athiests tend statistically to be better educated and have a higher IQ as well as requiring proof for any claims made about reality. Proof as in sound logical argument and repeatable demonstrateable outcomes from experimentation. Evidence is what forms thier opinions. Religious people are indroctrinated at birth and refuse to think. They are intellectually dishonest. Nothing will sway thier wish thinking reality to be what they want. Statistically this is easier to accomplish when people are not educated Or smart. This is an important difference here.

Again ill say it simply:
If your mythical religious beliefs are contrary to facts they are wrong and you should be ashamed at trying to disbelieve in reality.

I rather believe in my religion than ever think im better than someone since im atheist/religious person, dont think that every religious person is some idiot who doesnt know a thing, u dont know a single person in this thread (maybe u do some then i wouldnt include them), and calling them stupid since they're religious? well, that will only makes u stupid
IQ test is what makes u feel smarter? u may be good in one thing, or two or more, but ur not perfect, if ur IQ will be very high comparing to others, they will still know some things better than u do, does it make u stupid? No, tests dont reflect how smart a person is.

If u think that since i believe in god, and in judaism, it makes me think that others things dont exist, and i wont believe in such things as sun, and idk who taught u that, trying to make it like i said any of those things doesnt change anything, i can believe in god, and i can be jewish, or chrsitian, or muslim, or anything else, and i can be 'smarter' than u, and have higher IQ than u, i face reality, maybe ur reality and my reality arent the same, but that doesnt make ur reality better than mine.


What i said with my post is that u shouldnt try to force someone to not believe in his religion, u shouldnt even try, for me its one of the worst things someone could do to a person, this is his belief, and if it doesnt hurt anyone, or himself, its none of ur buisness to tell him if to believe or not.
This thread was made somehow meant to be made for discussion about religion, opinions (although as it seems ppl are making it just to have more posts, or they'll have the thread with the most pages, including the original OP), yet ppl only attack each other, arguing, every single one is thinking hes any better than the other one since he doesnt agree with him, thats the only thing ive seen here, if u wanna argue or discuss with someone, keep it on good terms, dont attack him, dont insult or curse, dont say anything like u did in that post, i would rather to talk with a retard person who will respect what im saying and i will respect what hes saying, rather than some idiot saying he got higher IQ, cuz hes atheist and the other one is a religious person, i have nothing against atheists, this is what they chose for themselves, and who am i to judge him for that? And if u wanna hear about my opinion, then IMO, a person who says hes better than anyone, is nothing more than an idiot, hes not better than anyone, and noone cares what he thinks that makes him any better, ur equal to me, even if ur atheist and im jewish.


Well, to sum things up, i dont think that even if ur some educated person with the highest IQ in the world, u should try and change someone's opinion about his religion or whatever he believes at.

No need to quote me back, will save u time. Enjoy.

How smart you are and your IQ are totally different, smarts is knowledge, IQ is intelligence, your mental agility, if you will

How smart you are and your IQ are totally different, smarts is knowledge, IQ is intelligence, your mental agility, if you will

This.
Also, I have friends that are Christians that have an IQ above average.
Dont have to be atheists to be smart, so what plus3 is saying is pure ignorance .