IQ does not measure great knowledge or true intelligence. It judges you based on an average for society; a fairly low average I might add. It mixes various patterns, common essential knowledge, and basic "can you survive in society" intelligence.
Unfortunately, it does not measure ingenuity, creativity, inventiveness, etc. In other words, it measures how well you survive now but not in the future, where lies the problem with religion.
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#352Pretty much spot on. My pont being people who have a higer IQ don't fall for the whole faith thing and can see the contradictions within the religion as well as the facts that disprove religious claims. These things bother them more.How smart you are and your IQ are totally different, smarts is knowledge, IQ is intelligence, your mental agility, if you will
And note that I said typical person and not a specific person. Typically humans are half male and half female. Typically a specific person is not both sexes. There is a difference.
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#353If you are Jewish and pro make belief reality would it bother you if someone claimed the hallocaust was made up and a lie? Would it bother you that the little lie helps them to feel better about being German despite evidence - horrifying evidence - to the contrary? How can a little make belief about reality really be bad if it makes them feel better?I rather believe in my religion than ever think im better than someone since im atheist/religious person, dont think that every religious person is some idiot who doesnt know a thing, u dont know a single person in this thread (maybe u do some then i wouldnt include them), and calling them stupid since they're religious? well, that will only makes u stupid
IQ test is what makes u feel smarter? u may be good in one thing, or two or more, but ur not perfect, if ur IQ will be very high comparing to others, they will still know some things better than u do, does it make u stupid? No, tests dont reflect how smart a person is.
If u think that since i believe in god, and in judaism, it makes me think that others things dont exist, and i wont believe in such things as sun, and idk who taught u that, trying to make it like i said any of those things doesnt change anything, i can believe in god, and i can be jewish, or chrsitian, or muslim, or anything else, and i can be 'smarter' than u, and have higher IQ than u, i face reality, maybe ur reality and my reality arent the same, but that doesnt make ur reality better than mine.
What i said with my post is that u shouldnt try to force someone to not believe in his religion, u shouldnt even try, for me its one of the worst things someone could do to a person, this is his belief, and if it doesnt hurt anyone, or himself, its none of ur buisness to tell him if to believe or not.
This thread was made somehow meant to be made for discussion about religion, opinions (although as it seems ppl are making it just to have more posts, or they'll have the thread with the most pages, including the original OP), yet ppl only attack each other, arguing, every single one is thinking hes any better than the other one since he doesnt agree with him, thats the only thing ive seen here, if u wanna argue or discuss with someone, keep it on good terms, dont attack him, dont insult or curse, dont say anything like u did in that post, i would rather to talk with a retard person who will respect what im saying and i will respect what hes saying, rather than some idiot saying he got higher IQ, cuz hes atheist and the other one is a religious person, i have nothing against atheists, this is what they chose for themselves, and who am i to judge him for that? And if u wanna hear about my opinion, then IMO, a person who says hes better than anyone, is nothing more than an idiot, hes not better than anyone, and noone cares what he thinks that makes him any better, ur equal to me, even if ur atheist and im jewish.
Well, to sum things up, i dont think that even if ur some educated person with the highest IQ in the world, u should try and change someone's opinion about his religion or whatever he believes at.
No need to quote me back, will save u time. Enjoy.
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#354Where did I say all religious people are stupid lol. You can't seem to follow simple logic are you trying to show how I'm right?This.How smart you are and your IQ are totally different, smarts is knowledge, IQ is intelligence, your mental agility, if you will
Also, I have friends that are Christians that have an IQ above average.
Dont have to be atheists to be smart, so what plus3 is saying is pure ignorance .
Statistically of you are a professional basketball player you are probably black. But I've seen awesome players who aren't black. Thus the first statement is false. Lol logic.
If you actually wanted to refute it show me a peer reviewed study that contradicts that claim.
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#355So your saying the majority of religious people are stupid?Where did I say all religious people are stupid lol. You can't seem to follow simple logic are you trying to show how I'm right?This.How smart you are and your IQ are totally different, smarts is knowledge, IQ is intelligence, your mental agility, if you will
Also, I have friends that are Christians that have an IQ above average.
Dont have to be atheists to be smart, so what plus3 is saying is pure ignorance .
Statistically of you are a professional basketball player you are probably black. But I've seen awesome players who aren't black. Thus the first statement is false. Lol logic.
If you actually wanted to refute it show me a peer reviewed study that contradicts that claim.
I honestly dont get it, and if thats what your saying, you should probably know that many red necks are atheists, and they probably didnt even finish high school.
I Also want to mention that, just because you think evolution, the big bang,etc are logical, that does not mean your right.
To be honest, I can see why people doubt the bible, but I can also clearly see why I believe the bible is true.
Neither you nor I have solid evidence that says that our beliefs are completely true.
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#356Solid evidence?!?! Where is your evidence god made the "heavens and the earth"?!?! We have crap tons of evidence for the Big Bang, we got CMBR. We got redshift, the expanding universe, im fairly sure over at Harvard they proved and observed gravitons about a month ago, which also backs up the Big Bang, the Higgs boson backs up the Big Bang, this is a small number of lots of evidences a quick google search would bring to light, please, ive had the decency to google search your drivel, do the same with mine
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#357Yes your honestly not getting it proves my point nicely.So your saying the majority of religious people are stupid?Where did I say all religious people are stupid lol. You can't seem to follow simple logic are you trying to show how I'm right?This.
Also, I have friends that are Christians that have an IQ above average.
Dont have to be atheists to be smart, so what plus3 is saying is pure ignorance .
Statistically of you are a professional basketball player you are probably black. But I've seen awesome players who aren't black. Thus the first statement is false. Lol logic.
If you actually wanted to refute it show me a peer reviewed study that contradicts that claim.
I honestly dont get it, and if thats what your saying, you should probably know that many red necks are atheists, and they probably didnt even finish high school.
I Also want to mention that, just because you think evolution, the big bang,etc are logical, that does not mean your right.
To be honest, I can see why people doubt the bible, but I can also clearly see why I believe the bible is true.
Neither you nor I have solid evidence that says that our beliefs are completely true.
And yes what I think about evolution, the big bang, etc does not mean I'm right true. Its the mountains of facts supporting it with zero facts refuting it and the repeatable experimentation that supplies the evidence. That makes it true no matter who tries to disbelieve.
And since you don't accept/understand/believe cosmology, geology, biology, arechology, DNA evidence, evolution etc then that also proves my point nicely.
Thanks for showing me I'm right for at least one data point.

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#358Actually, your proving my point.
Yes your honestly not getting it proves my point nicely.
And yes what I think about evolution, the big bang, etc does not mean I'm right true. Its the mountains of facts supporting it with zero facts refuting it and the repeatable experimentation that supplies the evidence. That makes it true no matter who tries to disbelieve.
And since you don't accept/understand/believe cosmology, geology, biology, arechology, DNA evidence, evolution etc then that also proves my point nicely.
Thanks for showing me I'm right for at least one data point.
Your blinded in ignorance.
You say we are stupid for believing in God, well I say your stupid for believing we are chimps.
They are all theories because they are all plausible, but not 100% sure that it happened. key word "THEORIES".
The bible is also seen as a theory because there are other theories that may be true too(Not that I doubt the bible. These theories are arguable )
So don't shout victory because a few things seem to be slightly possible. We have never seen something close to be the same as the big bang all these few hundred years, so your theory isn't fact. We also haven't seen a chimp turn into a human, so your theory isn't a fact.
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#359And here is your answer about not every one is a Christian.
Mathew 7: 21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Basically, any one who says they are Christian and can do miracles(currently) are lying(Pentacostals, etc)
Mathew 7: 21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
Basically, any one who says they are Christian and can do miracles(currently) are lying(Pentacostals, etc)
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#360And for ignorant people Cough*Plus3*Cough:
Ephesians 4:18
They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.
Ephesians 4:18
They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.