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Re: Question for Athiests

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Your bias is telling you that my "myth" is not possible. Before you even read my arguements you assumed I was wrong. This is just like a court trial. Both parties believe they are right, but it takes a judge who is unbiased to decide. I am giving you the chance to be the judge and decide, without bias. Otherwise the only way this will be decided is if someone without bias "judges".
With science threre is no "judge" you lack a fundamental understanding of reality. Evidence speaks for itself. Logic and reason are not opinion. In fact the evidence here is you you think everything needs to be judged to be real because of your myth. Thanks for so eloquently proving my pont.

Yes it's pretty easy to say that your claims are false straight away because I have studied these very issues for years. Nothing was dismissed out of hand.

Again if you are a fan of fantasy based reality try playing on the freeway believing god will help you. Or perhaps explain how hollocaust denial is just fine since some people wholeheartedly believe the atrocity never took place. Oh yea that's right the evidence makes the hollocaust a fact indepentent of belief. Just take the natural extension of that and you will see what I mean.

For your example of me believing fantasy based reality, the Bible says that if your will lines up with God's, then He will grant you anything you want. That does not mean that if you ask God to do something He will do it, and niether does it mean He is not there. And I love this example of holocaust denial. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about. When have I said denying the holocaust was just fine? please provide a quote.

Re: Question for Athiests

#82
Your bias is telling you that my "myth" is not possible. Before you even read my arguements you assumed I was wrong. This is just like a court trial. Both parties believe they are right, but it takes a judge who is unbiased to decide. I am giving you the chance to be the judge and decide, without bias. Otherwise the only way this will be decided is if someone without bias "judges".
With science threre is no "judge" you lack a fundamental understanding of reality. Evidence speaks for itself. Logic and reason are not opinion. In fact the evidence here is you you think everything needs to be judged to be real because of your myth. Thanks for so eloquently proving my pont.

Yes it's pretty easy to say that your claims are false straight away because I have studied these very issues for years. Nothing was dismissed out of hand.

Again if you are a fan of fantasy based reality try playing on the freeway believing god will help you. Or perhaps explain how hollocaust denial is just fine since some people wholeheartedly believe the atrocity never took place. Oh yea that's right the evidence makes the hollocaust a fact indepentent of belief. Just take the natural extension of that and you will see what I mean.

For your example of me believing fantasy based reality, the Bible says that if your will lines up with God's, then He will grant you anything you want. That does not mean that if you ask God to do something He will do it, and niether does it mean He is not there. And I love this example of holocaust denial. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about. When have I said denying the holocaust was just fine? please provide a quote.
Whoosh you failed to even realize the main point get again. More evidence.

You we're make pretending that reality is an opinion. Like you can choose to accept or deny evidence and it makes a difference in what is real. Or that you need a judge to determine what is real. Reality is not opinion.


People believe the hollocaust never happened despite the horrifying evidence to the contrary. Just as people believe in Christianity despite the horrifying evidence to the contrary.

It's not an opinion that nearly every last fact in the bible that is falsifiable has been shown false. It was probably written by hacks up to and beyond a hundred years after the fact by people who never met Jesus.

Go on keep denying reality i just hope that the lives you ruin are limited to your own.
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Re: Question for Athiests

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You cannot refrence the Bible to prove something that the Bible says. Of course the Bible supports God... he wrote it
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Re: Question for Athiests

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Your bias is telling you that my "myth" is not possible. Before you even read my arguements you assumed I was wrong. This is just like a court trial. Both parties believe they are right, but it takes a judge who is unbiased to decide. I am giving you the chance to be the judge and decide, without bias. Otherwise the only way this will be decided is if someone without bias "judges".
With science threre is no "judge" you lack a fundamental understanding of reality. Evidence speaks for itself. Logic and reason are not opinion. In fact the evidence here is you you think everything needs to be judged to be real because of your myth. Thanks for so eloquently proving my pont.

Yes it's pretty easy to say that your claims are false straight away because I have studied these very issues for years. Nothing was dismissed out of hand.

Again if you are a fan of fantasy based reality try playing on the freeway believing god will help you. Or perhaps explain how hollocaust denial is just fine since some people wholeheartedly believe the atrocity never took place. Oh yea that's right the evidence makes the hollocaust a fact indepentent of belief. Just take the natural extension of that and you will see what I mean.

For your example of me believing fantasy based reality, the Bible says that if your will lines up with God's, then He will grant you anything you want. That does not mean that if you ask God to do something He will do it, and niether does it mean He is not there. And I love this example of holocaust denial. It has nothing to do with what we are talking about. When have I said denying the holocaust was just fine? please provide a quote.[/quote]

Whoosh you failed to even realize the main point get again. More evidence.

You we're make pretending that reality is an opinion. Like you can choose to accept or deny evidence and it makes a difference in what is real. Or that you need a judge to determine what is real. Reality is not opinion.


People believe the hollocaust never happened despite the horrifying evidence to the contrary. Just as people believe in Christianity despite the horrifying evidence to the contrary.

It's not an opinion that nearly every last fact in the bible that is falsifiable has been shown false. It was probably written by hacks up to and beyond a hundred years after the fact by people who never met Jesus.

Go on keep denying reality i just hope that the lives you ruin are limited to your own.[/quote]

There is the evidence, and then the interpretation of the evidence. I am talking the the interpretation. We both have the exact same evidence, but its the interpretation thats different.

And you say there is horrifying evidence to falsify the Bible, but thats only you interpretation of it. If people with blind folds all feel a different part of an elephant, they will come to different conclusions. The person holding the tail will think its a snake, the person hold the ears will think its a fan, and the person holding the leg will think its a tree trunk. I encourage you to read a book called "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be An Atheist". This book will certainly provide undeniable arguements that you will have no valid answer for.

You say I am ruining my life, what is a good life then? and by what means are you basing this life as good?

Re: Question for Athiests

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There is the evidence, and then the interpretation of the evidence. I am talking the the interpretation. We both have the exact same evidence, but its the interpretation thats different.

And you say there is horrifying evidence to falsify the Bible, but thats only you interpretation of it. If people with blind folds all feel a different part of an elephant, they will come to different conclusions. The person holding the tail will think its a snake, the person hold the ears will think its a fan, and the person holding the leg will think its a tree trunk. I encourage you to read a book called "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be An Atheist". This book will certainly provide undeniable arguements that you will have no valid answer for.

You say I am ruining my life, what is a good life then? and by what means are you basing this life as good?
Interpretation is a code word for we will disbelieve despite the evidence. In science there is no "interpretation" at all that matters at all. Well perhaps it can give someone a clue as to where to do research next but interpretation is complete and utter religious inspired bullsh**.

Is interpretation going to matter if some randome burglar or mugger stuffs a 12gague rifle in your jaw and discharges it into your head? Nope. Physics will determine the result which is quite likely bad for all involved. Same goes with the rest of reality please have the balls to hold all evidence to the same standard.

No amount of blindly feeling the gun and thinking it may be a railing, or a wooden figure or other complete BS is going to prevent the above from occurring. Discharging fire arms is anything but opinion based. Reality is not an opinion. It's pretty damn obvious.

You are ruining your life proportional to your reality disbelief. Many people think god will cure them of diseases and vaccines are evil corporate scams that make children mentally retarded. They don't seek medical care and die needlessly or worse yet bring back diseases that we had wiped out as has been the case recently. Or perhaps the better example of catholics that brought the evils of condoms to Africa during a bad aids epidemic and preached the evil of them. That probably was responsible for tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of deaths that were preventable on top of the millions that died. I can only imagine thier purpose was not to mass murder black people like hitler did to Jews.

The more out of sync with reality you are the worse your statistical outcome. Without knowing what is real you lose your ability to get the results you intend. You can easily ruin the lives of people around you or kill them outright.
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Re: Question for Athiests

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You are applying the interpretation of evidence the wrong way. For example, There are marine fossils in the himalayas. Christians explain this with the Flood. Atheists explain this with tectonic plate movement. We both have the same evidence, but our interpretation is different. Why can't my opinion of the Flood carrying the marine life up there work? And you cannot say because you plate movement theory has been proven because it has not! You are basing you claim on observations you see today, and making assumptions. There is absolutely no evidence that the Himalayas were underwater. And unless someone was there to witness it, you have no proof. You see the plates moving against each other today, and assume that the they must have moved drastically in the past. If evolutionis true, then we certainly wouldve found an abundance of fossils of animals that are hybrids. Meaning we wouldve found fossils of ape/humanoid creatures already and found them in abundance!

Re: Question for Athiests

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You are applying the interpretation of evidence the wrong way. For example, There are marine fossils in the himalayas. Christians explain this with the Flood. Atheists explain this with tectonic plate movement. We both have the same evidence, but our interpretation is different. Why can't my opinion of the Flood carrying the marine life up there work? And you cannot say because you plate movement theory has been proven because it has not! You are basing you claim on observations you see today, and making assumptions. There is absolutely no evidence that the Himalayas were underwater. And unless someone was there to witness it, you have no proof. You see the plates moving against each other today, and assume that the they must have moved drastically in the past. If evolutionis true, then we certainly wouldve found an abundance of fossils of animals that are hybrids. Meaning we wouldve found fossils of ape/humanoid creatures already and found them in abundance!
You do not understand what evidence is. You do not understand interpretation means nothing as facts speak for themselves. You do not understand reality is not an opinion.

What more can I say. If you can't understand how marine fossils millions of years old moved by tectonic action to thier current location disproves your 6000 year old earth myth then nothing can. You have been brainwashed beyond hope.

Oh and by the way you ARE a human ape hybrid. You can send in your cheek cells to see what percentage Neanderthal you are as humans were able to interbreed with another species. Furthermore humans likely interbred with several other hominids. But then again the mitrocondrial DNA left in the bones of Neanderthals was put there by satan to deceive us from the true path of god right?

The real world is so rich so wonderful compared to the bleak North Korea esque picture your myth would have us believe. I thank god he dosent exist every day.
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Re: Question for Athiests

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... 8547583521

what is this a picture of?

And again I ask you, without using evolution and plate movement as your basis, because you cannot be sure of this because no one was there to witness it, why can't a worldwide flood happen?

And you still didn't answer the question. Why haven't we found fossils of half human half apes? If evolution is true then there must be plenty of fossils to go around.

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... 8547583521

what is this a picture of?

And again I ask you, without using evolution and plate movement as your basis, because you cannot be sure of this because no one was there to witness it, why can't a worldwide flood happen?

And you still didn't answer the question. Why haven't we found fossils of half human half apes? If evolution is true then there must be plenty of fossils to go around.
Lmafo. You are hilariously ignorant. Physics works even if someone isn't around to witness it. What you going to argue that since no one actually witnesses the electrons and photons used to communicate your posts we don't know If they are real? Trying to say reality is dependent on being witnessed is insanely stuipd, implies a low intelligence and furthermore is demonstratably false. Eyewitnesses are the absolute worst kind of evidence the legal systems of the world are based on this it is a fact. Repeatable experimentation is the most reliable. How about without using your myth book as "evidence" you try and prove your case. Lmafo.

Even a child can see that there isn't enough water on the planet for a "world wide flood". Saying it magically appeared then disappeared is a sign you need to be under supervision and on meds.

There are plenty of part humans part "apes" as you are one of them. Lmao. Take a look in the mirror if you need "proof".

And there are many species that can interbreed just look it up. Humans and most other hominids, all that exist today, have become too different from thier common ancestor to have viable offspring. Then again I don't expect you understand even grade school topics.


I suggest you actually try learning instead of wearing your ignorance in reality as a badge of honor.
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Re: Question for Athiests

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Gandy we HAVE found many of the missing links, your knowledge is horribly outdated, also, what is easier to believe in, a bearded old bigot or a conclusion that took real people time to come up with? I rest my case

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