Celtic Heroes

I described the big bang theory as something or nothing exploded but you said two things collided, its the same difference though, it doesn't give an answer to origins (unless you classify the origins as a god by my definition) it only pushes the answer backwards.

If nothing can exist forever, how is god eternal? See what im getting at?

No I don't.

Is the equal axiom in mathematics eternal? How is 1 = 1 not an eternal truth embedded in any reality? How could that not exist? Wouldn't mathematics and logic predate the universe since our laws of physics work so perfectly on them since time began for us?

Let's go a Step further. Would not mathematics and logic need to be in place for anything like a deity to even exist? Because you don't need a deity for math and logic.

Even better. If these mathematical principles are eternal perhaps our reality is just the actual embodiment of them.

No god needed.

Aggra the 4th dimension is time, you are travelling through it at right now, although when you move at all time slows down by an amazingly tiny amount, and going faster than light results in going backwards in time, just like going at the speed of light freezes time (at your local area)

No I don't.

Is the equal axiom in mathematics eternal? How is 1 = 1 not an eternal truth embedded in any reality? How could that not exist? Wouldn't mathematics and logic predate the universe since our laws of physics work so perfectly on them since time began for us?

Let's go a Step further. Would not mathematics and logic need to be in place for anything like a deity to even exist? Because you don't need a deity for math and logic.

Even better. If these mathematical principles are eternal perhaps our reality is just the actual embodiment of them.

No god needed.

You have taken my post to mean something else, you seem to think I was voicing my opinion for god, while my opinion was voiced against it. I was pointing out that god cannot be eternal if nothing is eternal, I was using his own logic against him. Please consider that I am an atheist before reading my posts as you have assumed I am christian. Thanks.

Aggra the 4th dimension is time, you are travelling through it at right now, although when you move at all time slows down by an amazingly tiny amount, and going faster than light results in going backwards in time, just like going at the speed of light freezes time (at your local area)

Yep traveling at the speed of light freezes time for you - it is the equivalent of instantaneous travel for the observer - however the universe will age around you at normal speed. Traveling faster than light through physical space isn't really possible - doubly so if you have mass.

Oh and ElEldric - mass can be created and destroyed. That's how nuclear power works. The difference is mass in a nuclear reaction may be small but energy = mass x speed of light ^ 2 which is quite allot.

Aggra the 4th dimension is time, you are travelling through it at right now, although when you move at all time slows down by an amazingly tiny amount, and going faster than light results in going backwards in time, just like going at the speed of light freezes time (at your local area)

Yep traveling at the speed of light freezes time for you - it is the equivalent of instantaneous travel for the observer - however the universe will age around you at normal speed. Traveling faster than light through physical space isn't really possible - doubly so if you have mass.

Oh and ElEldric - mass can be created and destroyed. That's how nuclear power works. The difference is mass in a nuclear reaction may be small but energy = mass x speed of light ^ 2 which is quite allot.

I described the big bang theory as something or nothing exploded but you said two things collided, its the same difference though, it doesn't give an answer to origins (unless you classify the origins as a god by my definition) it only pushes the answer backwards.

Making stuff up with no evidence - that explains nothing rationally and makes no accurate predictions - says nothing and is not an answer. That includes supernatural explanations.

Go ahead and have supernatural faith in the gaps of scientific knowledge. No one can show contrary evidence today. Just don't complain when the continually mounting facts squeezes your faith out from that hole and it withers under the light of rationality tomorrow.

I described the big bang theory as something or nothing exploded but you said two things collided, its the same difference though, it doesn't give an answer to origins (unless you classify the origins as a god by my definition) it only pushes the answer backwards.

If nothing can exist forever, how is god eternal? See what im getting at?

I described the big bang theory as something or nothing exploded but you said two things collided, its the same difference though, it doesn't give an answer to origins (unless you classify the origins as a god by my definition) it only pushes the answer backwards.

If nothing can exist forever, how is god eternal? See what im getting at?

No I don't.

Is the equal axiom in mathematics eternal? How is 1 = 1 not an eternal truth embedded in any reality? How could that not exist? Wouldn't mathematics and logic predate the universe since our laws of physics work so perfectly on them since time began for us?

Let's go a Step further. Would not mathematics and logic need to be in place for anything like a deity to even exist? Because you don't need a deity for math and logic.

Even better. If these mathematical principles are eternal perhaps our reality is just the actual embodiment of them.

No god needed.

You have taken my post to mean something else, you seem to think I was voicing my opinion for god, while my opinion was voiced against it. I was pointing out that god cannot be eternal if nothing is eternal, I was using his own logic against him. Please consider that I am an atheist before reading my posts as you have assumed I am christian. Thanks.

Aggra the 4th dimension is time, you are travelling through it at right now, although when you move at all time slows down by an amazingly tiny amount, and going faster than light results in going backwards in time, just like going at the speed of light freezes time (at your local area)

Yep traveling at the speed of light freezes time for you - it is the equivalent of instantaneous travel for the observer - however the universe will age around you at normal speed. Traveling faster than light through physical space isn't really possible - doubly so if you have mass.

Oh and ElEldric - mass can be created and destroyed. That's how nuclear power works. The difference is mass in a nuclear reaction may be small but energy = mass x speed of light ^ 2 which is quite allot.