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Re: Current State of Rangers

#41
I don't think that all these rangers are saying that other classes should be nerfed, more like that we are weak right now and need a little boost. I havn't tested a lot of the new skills, but hybrid and the dex seems ok with the old skills. I dont feel like i'm doing less damage than before, but I am definetely noticing the slower rapid and light heal. I think though that compared to other classes nowadays, the ranger class really needs a boost.
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Re: Current State of Rangers

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Haven't tried new skills (we all need more skill points since update) but why this focus on how great a skill bolas is?

As mentioned by someone a lot of ranger skills need to be maxed to be effective. Also as skill points are only added every 30 levels by the 15 th level after last skill point increase you need to max to kill current level mobs.

Have you all noticed in the new areas lots of 60 level mobs (not bosses) with one star? So i can kill them with a Pot or two but at 142 i can't bolas them.

So to my mind bolas is no longer great in training. Old bosses yes a bolas could be great, tho there are resists and ymir guards almost ignored. But in new areas bolas seems kind of useless.

I wish less of our skills needed maxing and more a mix of level AND percent based, so maybe bolas increases the slowness the more points you put in and there is also a level component. Not sure of details but that is why game designers are paid the big bucks.

I have a rogue also and few of the old skills needed maxing to be somewhat useful. Also i am so glad to hear Rogue skills have improved....Play Dead anyone?
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#44
Don't think we should be complaining just yet. We should wait till we get to the level cap and obtain all those high end gear before deciding whether the class is balanced or not. Mages may seem OP for now but it's because we already are at "end-game" damage with maxed skills. Even with top end gear, the dmg boost won't be as much as rangers or rogues.
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#45
Rangers do need a slight boost to be honest. Also, If your rogues aren't getting kills, you guys are doing something wrong. Druids also needs energy costs cut their storm touch are like 2x an ice shard? Warriors got a nice boost also and if skills are utalized efficiently it can even out dps a rogue/mage. That being said it took me some time to find my new build as a mage, fire allurement just didnt appeal to me whatsoever.

Another thing, to those people who use ' we dont have enough skill points' I'm afraid to break it to you but this isnt class specific and it does happen to all classes.

I know this doesnt affect everyone but please take into consideration other classes before you comment. I've seen so many biased post on here.
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Re: Current State of Rangers

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the point is, we are not comparing a end game mage vs noob ranger, we're comparing similar level of mage vs ranger with same lux and new skills, but tbh, mage dmg is way op. If rangers are mile behind now, it will be miles at end game as well, lol
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Re: Current State of Rangers

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Another thing, to those people who use ' we dont have enough skill points' I'm afraid to break it to you but this isnt class specific and it does happen to all classes.

I know this doesnt affect everyone but please take into consideration other classes before you comment. I've seen so many biased post on here.
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Not sure if you were referring to my post but i meant all classes need more points (in my opinion) not just Rangers.

And I really meant we need more to just enjoy the new skills better not to make up for class problems. Cant everyone read my mind !!
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#48
Seriously?
Rangers don't need any boosts. They have a massive heal along with decent dps. I know a ranger who heals 1k hp and does more damage than that with skills. He can solo bosses I can't even get to 75% hp.
Rogues got a boost. But it was one that was needed. I die so much. Even with the regen I have and the skill from an essence blade, I use 10 idols to get to my leveling spot. And I'm not conplaining. If I use 20 restores to kill a boss a ranger my level can solo, why is the ranger complaining?
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#49
Seriously?
Rangers don't need any boosts. They have a massive heal along with decent dps. I know a ranger who heals 1k hp and does more damage than that with skills. He can solo bosses I can't even get to 75% hp.
Rogues got a boost. But it was one that was needed. I die so much. Even with the regen I have and the skill from an essence blade, I use 10 idols to get to my leveling spot. And I'm not conplaining. If I use 20 restores to kill a boss a ranger my level can solo, why is the ranger complaining?
Just because you know one Ranger with a high heal does not mean much. A high Dex Ranger will have low Strength indeed unless they have low Vit.

I am level 142 and my heal was approaching 500 with a goodish Dex due to adds from stuff. Yes I am happy to have it but I also have a Rogue and even pre update he could kill so much better and faster than my higher level Ranger. The difference was that my Ranger could last longer in a fight but in a group or with a Druid my Rogue was DPS king.

I admit Rogue skills were nerfed for well over half of them but Rogues need to get over the Ranger hate and also remember that those old opinions on this topic are based on LAST update.
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Last edited by Landoril on Fri May 10, 2013 10:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Landoril 221 Ranger
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#50
I should rephrase that haha
Every class lacks something. Warriors lack damage, mages lack armor, Druids lack armor, and rogues lack vitality. Rangers are meant to be well rounded. They are not a dps, or a healer, or support. They are just sort of a soloing class. But they are a great class. You can have a ranger heal 1k health and do more than that with a skill hit. Bolas isn't needed. You guys can do way more than any other classes when you are alone. They may not always be called first for a grouping, bur they're still never left out.
They do moderate damage, amazing heals, and they do not have to fight more than one enemy at a time thanks to camo. Find a build that's good if yours is not working. There are problems with all classes, but asking for all classes to be boosted would make it worse. If ranger gets a noticeable boost, people from other classes are going to complain and bully one thumb into boosting their classes. Rangers are a great class right now, just have to get the build and luxury items that are right for you.

And I have both a rogue and a ranger too. ;P
I don't hate rangers. They're great, and I love rogues even more. I wasn't complaining.
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