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Re: Rangers are by far

#3
Thee worst class gj guys u totally screwed about half of the population who plays this game in a result a loss of money for u guys so gj
You're blaming the wrong guy, you're a bad ranger if you complain u can't adapt to new changes
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Re: Rangers are by far

#5
I agree with original post rangers have gotten screwed on update. Its pretty bad when im level 157 pretty much full dps with three damage ring( 40,45,50) frozen quiver or wind, dp chest legs, frozen bow damage helm 455 strength, and im on a combo elixer and i level 156 warrior in tank gear but mostly strength can out dps a ranger. Something doesnt seem right. We were in a group together so dont say target lock crap, which is also a dumb addition. Ok here's my suggestion- first get rid of target lock garbage at 25-30% if any lock it should be at 50%. Sec work on rangers, bolas doesnt really help when alot more of the new bosses have bows also, and rage which is also kinda screwed up in my opinion. U give out new skills( which i like that we have new skills) but maybe throw in some bonus skill points so we dont have to keep rebirthing just to see if skills are worth using. I like content of new update (now that i can actually log after 2-3 weeks of being locked out) but the bosses like troll boss, will still there looking cool for a few months since u overpowered them. And yes i understand its something to strive for but unless u sink 1000's in plat items good luck. Please look into rangers as dps because u have alot of people looking to quit rangers because how messed up they are.
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Re: Rangers are by far

#6
I agree with original post rangers have gotten screwed on update. Its pretty bad when im level 157 pretty much full dps with three damage ring( 40,45,50) frozen quiver or wind, dp chest legs, frozen bow damage helm 455 strength, and im on a combo elixer and i level 156 warrior in tank gear but mostly strength can out dps a ranger. Something doesnt seem right. We were in a group together so dont say target lock crap, which is also a dumb addition. Ok here's my suggestion- first get rid of target lock garbage at 25-30% if any lock it should be at 50%. Sec work on rangers, bolas doesnt really help when alot more of the new bosses have bows also, and rage which is also kinda screwed up in my opinion. U give out new skills( which i like that we have new skills) but maybe throw in some bonus skill points so we dont have to keep rebirthing just to see if skills are worth using. I like content of new update (now that i can actually log after 2-3 weeks of being locked out) but the bosses like troll boss, will still there looking cool for a few months since u overpowered them. And yes i understand its something to strive for but unless u sink 1000's in plat items good luck. Please look into rangers as dps because u have alot of people looking to quit rangers because how messed up they are.




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Re: Rangers are by far

#7
I agree with most of what you said except target lock. Something just doesn't seem right with rangers anymore. As i level i feel less and less powerful. It should be the other way around. I was grouped last night with one of our rogues and he has a solid build and it isn't a paper thin str build he was 8 levels lower then me and using frozen armor. We was fighting in the the 4th room in the deep caves; so mobs out leveled him by almost 10 levels. I am geared with rad es, 4 aggy damage rings,2 damage bracelets,rad neck,bone knuckles 300 damage offhand i think my sats are 1356 damage 3400 attack and on haste. I use sharpen weapons,and spikes mostly. But he was still getting kills. Now if we was the same level i would expect him to get kills. But with the level to damage nerf from being lower level then the mob how was he getting the kills? He has powerful skills thats how. Same with da dps druid in our group the get kills over our rangers all the time. Y? Because they have good powerful skills. And for the druids that say druids dps sucks the are crazy my druid out dps's my ranger all the time.
From what i have seen and form different builds that i have made so far( i have made bow and knuckle builds) its our skills that hold us back even now more then in update 3. Just not enough damage for skills used,slow cast times, skill point dumps(bolas,entangle,camo,conceal,even rapid shot) and long cool downs. Rapid has a way to long of a cool down. I don't even use bolas anymore because mobs seem to move faster now when leashed and most areas are congested with mobs. Bolas is only good now imo for boss fights were the boss rages or evades the tanks taunts. Steady aim seems like it got nerfed too it gave about the same attack as before but now its less damage. Spikes damage per tick hasn't increased in 20 levels so its a dead skill now with mobs having more hp and resist. I just don't know about rangers anymore they just seem like a damn plat dump now. And I have dumped a ton of plat already.
And what's up with the new quivers? I don't know if anyone has notice but they aren't as good a other lux shop when they came out. What happened to the 150 health and energy on the new quivers? We are limited to bow skills and have to use quivers as an off hand to use these skills how about make quivers that are good for the price. Damage compared to the new mobs should be at least 250 damage and have 200 energy and 200 hp. Why break the trend of quivers with out the the energy and hp on our lux.
IMO rangers are so scatter brained that we can't even tell what foot is our right foot and what one is our left. We had a solid class and now we are as ****ed up as a snake in a lawn mower.
When a ranger gains levels it just does not feel like you gained any progression from leveling anymore. Its as if you dump more points in point dump skills. And more of the same ole same ole. Maybe when i gain 50 more levels i can actually add another skill that is useful.
Then you have str cap for damage. Hell all of them have a cap that is to low. Where should i put these points at if the all attributes points hit my plateau?
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Re: Rangers are by far

#8
Stop complaining. I think they improved in rangers. Well everything but range on longshot. But rangers a really the best class. You can heal when others can barely heal. You can bolas, you can't tank of course. But you can solo. Long range shottinf
Bolas is worthless and now in pvp the healing is just crap, tanking isnt as easy anymore for rangers, so no they are no the best class they arnt extremely terrible i agree but they really are no longer the super totally kick ass class they used to be and cool downs are way to long.

Re: Rangers are by far

#9
OTM metioned in the giant ranger thread under General Discussion that they were working on the class balance issues.

The patch shortly thereafter didn't do much for rangers. It would be nice to hear something from OTM either way of they are still looking into this.

"We feel rangers are adequate now" or "we are still researching this issue" would be welcome.

Please tell us something.

Re: Rangers are by far

#10
I agree with most of what you said except target lock. Something just doesn't seem right with rangers anymore. As i level i feel less and less powerful. It should be the other way around. I was grouped last night with one of our rogues and he has a solid build and it isn't a paper thin str build he was 8 levels lower then me and using frozen armor. We was fighting in the the 4th room in the deep caves; so mobs out leveled him by almost 10 levels. I am geared with rad es, 4 aggy damage rings,2 damage bracelets,rad neck,bone knuckles 300 damage offhand i think my sats are 1356 damage 3400 attack and on haste. I use sharpen weapons,and spikes mostly. But he was still getting kills. Now if we was the same level i would expect him to get kills. But with the level to damage nerf from being lower level then the mob how was he getting the kills? He has powerful skills thats how. Same with da dps druid in our group the get kills over our rangers all the time. Y? Because they have good powerful skills. And for the druids that say druids dps sucks the are crazy my druid out dps's my ranger all the time.
From what i have seen and form different builds that i have made so far( i have made bow and knuckle builds) its our skills that hold us back even now more then in update 3. Just not enough damage for skills used,slow cast times, skill point dumps(bolas,entangle,camo,conceal,even rapid shot) and long cool downs. Rapid has a way to long of a cool down. I don't even use bolas anymore because mobs seem to move faster now when leashed and most areas are congested with mobs. Bolas is only good now imo for boss fights were the boss rages or evades the tanks taunts. Steady aim seems like it got nerfed too it gave about the same attack as before but now its less damage. Spikes damage per tick hasn't increased in 20 levels so its a dead skill now with mobs having more hp and resist. I just don't know about rangers anymore they just seem like a damn plat dump now. And I have dumped a ton of plat already.
And what's up with the new quivers? I don't know if anyone has notice but they aren't as good a other lux shop when they came out. What happened to the 150 health and energy on the new quivers? We are limited to bow skills and have to use quivers as an off hand to use these skills how about make quivers that are good for the price. Damage compared to the new mobs should be at least 250 damage and have 200 energy and 200 hp. Why break the trend of quivers with out the the energy and hp on our lux.
IMO rangers are so scatter brained that we can't even tell what foot is our right foot and what one is our left. We had a solid class and now we are as ****ed up as a snake in a lawn mower.
When a ranger gains levels it just does not feel like you gained any progression from leveling anymore. Its as if you dump more points in point dump skills. And more of the same ole same ole. Maybe when i gain 50 more levels i can actually add another skill that is useful.
Then you have str cap for damage. Hell all of them have a cap that is to low. Where should i put these points at if the all attributes points hit my plateau?
+1 to all cmfl said. Especially getting outhit by rogues lower 10 lvls than you and even druids. With his rad ES gears and haste lix, rogues with 10 lvls lower and druids shouldn't even be outhitting him. Cmfl has the most complete dps ranger gears you could ever think of as a nuck ranger so I dont see how he could be outdps in that scenario.

It's the skills damage we are lacking in this update. Even with autos and skills combined, we can't be on par with other classes in terms of dps. Ever since update 4, not a ranger in clan has gotten a kill over a boss as we're busy dealing with the adds. I'm not complaining about the adds being difficult, in fact I like them as it's a challenge. However, rangers have been underrated so much that in a boss fight we're to deal with adds and help with heals. DPS is no longer in a ranger's dictionary. Sharp shot takes awhile to fire after casting it, long shot takes too long to cast and it is highly possible to get interrupted, barbed shot takes too long to cast as well and the initial damage is all over the place.

With these high mana consumption (as a ranger) to cast all these skills, I don't see why all our skills should deal so little damage. Bring back dps rangers, not everyone likes being a support ranger. (I like to be one though, but will get bored eventually)
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