Celtic Heroes

Light I think it's awesome you take Druid the dps route, that being said if your tank in boss fights let's you die then they suck, plain and simple , once a month ok np it happens but more than that and they suck. And if you beat out higher level rogues , they suck too.

I have entangle maxed at 20/20 right now and it makes a difference during regular fights and boss fights. The tank isnt getting hit as often and the healer saves on energy from less heals. During solo fights its a nice lead off skill followed by rapid shot. I'm glad I have this skill and so does the clan.

I have entangle maxed at 20/20 right now and it makes a difference during regular fights and boss fights. The tank isnt getting hit as often and the healer saves on energy from less heals. During solo fights its a nice lead off skill followed by rapid shot. I'm glad I have this skill and so does the clan.

Stinky, you being a frequent user of Entangle, can you please provide more details of your thoughts on it?
Does it reduce damage or attack speed. If its attack speed - u reckon its 50% reduction? Is it a similar effect on mobs and bosses etc?

Entangle reminds me of the terrifying gaze from Blue eye mobs and the effect was indeed horrible as it cutted my melee attack speed by half, resulting me to kill it with skills instead. With that in mind, entangle should have the equal potential no?

Thanks

Entangle slows a mobs attack speed by half. If you use entangle followed by rapid shot you have slowed the mobs attack speed by 50% and increased yours by 50%, this is a nice combo because at the start of a fight you burn through a large portion of the mobs health while reducing damage done to you by half. Its good for those higher lvl mobs that you would otherwise have to be healing alot through the fight. At 20/20 it lasts 30 seconds, but typically I kill most things long before I have a chance to cast it a 2nd time. I find it to be incredibly usefull, and yes it works on reg mobs and bosses. Just yesterday the clan was killing the boss wisps and unicorns and 30 sec of reduced mob hits makes a noticable difference to the tanks and druids. I keep Entangle maxed because the higher level it is the less chance a mob or boss has to avoid it.

question Stinky,

has entangle changed since it first came out? when i first got it, it tried it and noticed little or no difference. I couldn't wait to get my bolas back. For me, i can't rationalize giving up bolas for entangle - it is just too effective - bolas + rapid and i have the mob down by half or more before it gets to me (well, not for wyverns).

All that being said, i just rebuilt to be more strength and gave up sharp shot. I put 27 points in to defensive spike, but am wondering if i should give entangle an second go.

@eliminator - i am lightface's training partner - and my dps was definitely lower than many rangers my level - but i played a bit differently and it worked out fairly well (even if lightface stole aggro) for my soloing and style. I have since changed all my stats and style, and lightface doesn't steal quite as often (or he is holding back to make me feel good ).

That being said, when Lightface says he is dps, he is crazy high dps when he wants to be - an extreme build that proves what a druid can do. Trust me, the rangers and rogues he stole aggro from do not suck. He has to be seen to be believed. All that dps and he can still keep me alive!

For me being a dedicated spear wielding ranger, entangle benifits me because I'm up in a mobs face everytime. For you using a bow, entangle would be more situational. Bolas + Bow basically gives you the same effect on melee mobs because your holding the mob at a distance and not taking damage, but on mobs that use ranged attacks such as archers or casters bolas are useless, and this is where entangle would benefit you more than bolas. But for boss fights entangle would benefit the whole clan during the battle as long as it was up. I am a big fan of entangle, but then I probably use it more than most rangers due to me using a spear.

For me being a dedicated spear wielding ranger, entangle benifits me because I'm up in a mobs face everytime. For you using a bow, entangle would be more situational. Bolas + Bow basically gives you the same effect on melee mobs because your holding the mob at a distance and not taking damage, but on mobs that use ranged attacks such as archers or casters bolas are useless, and this is where entangle would benefit you more than bolas. But for boss fights entangle would benefit the whole clan during the battle as long as it was up. I am a big fan of entangle, but then I probably use it more than most rangers due to me using a spear.

Bolas are not useless against casters or archers .

Most if not all high level clans do not use entangle for bosses.

Entangle fighting toe to toe for xp mobs ( unless they changed entangle without telling us ) with entangle is not basically the same as fighting with bolas, bolas 0 damage , entangle 1/2 the damage . Entangle lasts 1/2 as long as recast , bolas lasts twice as long as recast. entangle does not work against all ranged mobs as entangle has no effect on casters other than there melee.

Entangle is a broken spell that needs to be reworked if OTM ever expects high level rangers to use it with any regularity.

The next time your in the grove ( or anywhere really) fight some casters with bolas and then entangle, use a stop watch and count many times you get attacked with each, and find out for yourselves. I guess you will always have forum trolls no matter which game your playing.

Stinky

Having Both Entangle and Def Spikes, don't you think they kinda... work against each other?

Was thinking about this last night, and Def Spikes is reactive, i.e. a mob not hitting you won't get hit with spikes, right? And Entangle slows enemy attacks?

So Slowed enemy = less def spike dmg?


P.S. thnking more in terms of solo fights than group ones, tho both scenarios would have this... issue.

It may not be optimal damage, but it is still additional damage that your doing despite being at 50% effeciency during that 30 sec of entangle. Extra damage is extra damage and every little bit helps.