Celtic Heroes

For a fast solution, just make sharpshot STR based, double shot insta cast, buff defensive spikes, make steady aim insta cast.

Double shot is a clone of double attack. Shouldn't double attack also be made instacast?

Doesn't matter if it is, point is, rangers are neither great DPS or great support. Who wants to be a mediocre class? All classes are choose on basis of 1 motive, people choose rangers nowdays because they're cheap and thats the cold hard truth.

For a fast solution, just make sharpshot STR based, double shot insta cast, buff defensive spikes, make steady aim insta cast.

Double shot is a clone of double attack. Shouldn't double attack also be made instacast?

Doesn't matter if it is, point is, rangers are neither great DPS or great support. Who wants to be a mediocre class? All classes are choose on basis of 1 motive, people choose rangers nowdays because they're cheap and thats the cold hard truth.

To go down one path means to forsake the other. If rogues kept their current skills and rangers lost bolas entangle light heal spike and made sharpen weapons only castable on yourself or a single person it would make sense for them to match rogue dps even with the benefit of ranged combat if rogues retained lifesteal. If a class wants dps it must sacrifice something else. If a class wants something else it must sacrifice dps.

Double shot is a clone of double attack. Shouldn't double attack also be made instacast?

Doesn't matter if it is, point is, rangers are neither great DPS or great support. Who wants to be a mediocre class? All classes are choose on basis of 1 motive, people choose rangers nowdays because they're cheap and thats the cold hard truth.

To go down one path means to forsake the other. If rogues kept their current skills and rangers lost bolas entangle light heal spike and made sharpen weapons only castable on yourself or a single person it would make sense for them to match rogue dps even with the benefit of ranged combat if rogues retained lifesteal. If a class wants dps it must sacrifice something else. If a class wants something else it must sacrifice dps.

No phoenix sherlock. The fact of the matter is that even a ranger who sacifices all survivability skills is still WEAK because our damage skills are BROKEN.

Doesn't matter if it is, point is, rangers are neither great DPS or great support. Who wants to be a mediocre class? All classes are choose on basis of 1 motive, people choose rangers nowdays because they're cheap and thats the cold hard truth.

To go down one path means to forsake the other. If rogues kept their current skills and rangers lost bolas entangle light heal spike and made sharpen weapons only castable on yourself or a single person it would make sense for them to match rogue dps even with the benefit of ranged combat if rogues retained lifesteal. If a class wants dps it must sacrifice something else. If a class wants something else it must sacrifice dps.

No **** sherlock. The fact of the matter is that even a ranger who sacifices all survivability skills is still WEAK because our damage skills are BROKEN.

You dodged what the point of my post like: You choose a class to play the role. Choosing a certain class has trade offs. If you wanted to become a tank you would choose warrior. Since this class has the ability to tank it isn't right for it to be able to heal just by sacrificing their ability to tank through respecing. If you wanted to heal you should have chose druid. The same goes for a dps class. Rangers are a ranged support/dps class. They have the ability to go full support and heal. They shouldn't be able to go dps and compete with a class that is unable to spec support to the extent they do. That's probably why mages don't have great long term dps but they have nuke damage. They can go lures which is considered support. Druids can heal buff and debuff so they shouldn't compete with a class that can't do all those things by respecing. Dps is a role just like healing, support, or tanking. To say a support class should be able to compete with a dps class is obsurd and throws away the concept of class roles.

Rogue can go support just as much as a ranger... yet ranger is lacking dps...

To go down one path means to forsake the other. If rogues kept their current skills and rangers lost bolas entangle light heal spike and made sharpen weapons only castable on yourself or a single person it would make sense for them to match rogue dps even with the benefit of ranged combat if rogues retained lifesteal. If a class wants dps it must sacrifice something else. If a class wants something else it must sacrifice dps.

Reflex, lifesteal, high dex, ss, qs = great dps AND survivability, dat trade off right?

There are full vit rogues who still do good dmg because of their strong melees and skill dmg who wreck pvp, idk how someone can be so blind to obvious class inbalance, you are in denial, period.

To go down one path means to forsake the other. If rogues kept their current skills and rangers lost bolas entangle light heal spike and made sharpen weapons only castable on yourself or a single person it would make sense for them to match rogue dps even with the benefit of ranged combat if rogues retained lifesteal. If a class wants dps it must sacrifice something else. If a class wants something else it must sacrifice dps.

Reflex, lifesteal, high dex, ss, qs = great dps AND survivability, dat trade off right?

There are full vit rogues who still do good dmg because of their strong melees and skill dmg who wreck pvp, idk how someone can be so blind to obvious class inbalance, you are in denial, period.

Rangers can stand out of AoE and be considered invincible on endgame bosses. A bolased mob does 0 damage if it can't reach you. Also, a rogue with high Dex using the skills you mentioned will not ever get an endgame kill. Life steal helps survive but is not castable on other players like light heal. Survivability isn't a class role if that's what you're getting at. Rogues can't kite mobs. They can't heal others. They can't stay out of AoE. Also, what you said about rogues in PvP is true and I believe rangers need a buff in PvP as well but I think most people care about balancing out PvE.

For a fast solution, just make sharpshot STR based, double shot insta cast, buff defensive spikes, make steady aim insta cast.

Would you care and elaborate (stats and stuff) as it seems that Otm doesn't seem to want to make this a fast fix and we might as well get these changes as perfect as possible in the mean time wright? Anybody else have ideas?

What you think about entangle?

What you think about entangle?