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Re: Current State of Rangers

#114
Hellmage quit his. That tells you something. lol
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Re: Current State of Rangers

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Elion wrote:

Chelseam2 wrote:I put points into camo because I had enough to put into. So will you when you level/learn. :)




U made an awefull desicion by putting points into camo. I am a lvl 168 and i still dont have enough points to put into the skills i want. Atm i use longshot, bolas, steady aim, sharpen weapons, and light heal. I may change up some things but if i had more points i would make camo my last priority because it ismt good. It is nothing like a camo charm.




I noticed this and meant to comment on it earlier .

Not sure if anyone tried it out but the skill Camouflage was completely revamped for update 4 , it now lasts 4 mins and works in combat . It is essentially a free camo charm now , I believe it's the same 80% camo as charm .
Elim, I agree they revamped it to work in combat and last longer but it still requires a lot of points and then how do we fill up the needed skills to be some what viable in solo/group combat and on bosses?
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#116
Just get 4 Aggy camo rings 10,9,8 and 7 , jeez that's what everyone does .


I'm jk , I have charm so it is tough for me to comment on the value of the spell , I know rangers have too many GD point sink skills anyways , I mean rapid being added to the list of skills that require full points to be effective was back breaking for rangers already , I feel slightly bad for rangers that don't have a camo charm , I feel terrible for all those of other classes that don't have a charm.
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#117
a few notes on ranger skills:

rapid instant cast is great - but it seems slower and cooldown takes forever. as mentioned, it is basically a point sink if you want it to be effective. i was quite demoralized to see how much slower i seemed to be going than the rogue next to me.

longshot is great - does damage that i am not embarrassed about. it is maxed. Needs to be greyed out when too close though - else you waste a lot of time trying to cast it only to find out you are too close.

Sharp shot - wide range of damage, from about auto to 2x auto. generally nothing close to longshot. should be increased a bit

bolas great skill. However, to everyone who says rangers should not complain cause they have bolas and can solo: soloing is next to useless if it takes forever to make the kill (between bolas, running and such). at 160, i do not solo for leveling - waste of elixar and time. it is useful for killing off adds - because i can kill them. Some bosses can be soloed. But it can be very difficult, especially if there are adds or guards around. Overall: great skill, very useful in groups, bossing, or soloing - but not some magical skill that (at high level) lets a ranger go off, solo, and comeback having leveled really fast.

Light heal: great skill which i keep maxed - but do not ever tell me i can compare to a druid heal. 900 is a great heal, but any serious support druid that only healed at 900 when level 160.....

sharpen: cool buff that casts fast

I used camo in beta, but i have a charm in live game. if i didnt have the charm, i would likely use camo (and not have sharpen, steady, or rapid probably).

I notice that ranger energy usage is far better now. If i use my offhand and heroic ammy, i am generally good for energy. If i use my ES ammy, i have to be a bit more careful.

One of my biggest issues right now: when group leveling the rogues and warriors run up to the mob and attack. For me, i have to target the mob and cast longshot and sharpshot. Targeting can be difficult when others get in the way (so i waste more time running around). basically, by the time i get my initial rounds off, the other characters are well into the mob. It is frustrating when my maxed sharpshot does about the same damage as other's auto.

Overall, when leveling with a group, i now feel kinda slow and cluggy. Luckily my longshot dmg tends to stand out and i can do some nice healing and have a few points in sharpen - so i don't feel too guilty about dragging down the group. But i definitely feel less effective than before (which i think is mostly rapid shot).

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Re: Current State of Rangers

#118
Just get 4 Aggy camo rings 10,9,8 and 7 , jeez that's what everyone does .


I'm jk , I have charm so it is tough for me to comment on the value of the spell , I know rangers have too many GD point sink skills anyways , I mean rapid being added to the list of skills that require full points to be effective was back breaking for rangers already , I feel slightly bad for rangers that don't have a camo charm , I feel terrible for all those of other classes that don't have a charm.
But then you didnt like my suggestion about giving more points to all classes. You know we all new them its not fun to no beable to use more then 20% of skills im 172 i should beable to use a fair few.
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#119
Just get 4 Aggy camo rings 10,9,8 and 7 , jeez that's what everyone does .


I'm jk , I have charm so it is tough for me to comment on the value of the spell , I know rangers have too many GD point sink skills anyways , I mean rapid being added to the list of skills that require full points to be effective was back breaking for rangers already , I feel slightly bad for rangers that don't have a camo charm , I feel terrible for all those of other classes that don't have a charm.
But then you didnt like my suggestion about giving more points to all classes. You know we all new them its not fun to no beable to use more then 20% of skills im 172 i should beable to use a fair few.

I don't think I said anything other than how would we use 6 skills energy wise in your post. I then believe I made a suggestion that would make your idea viable , sometimes we see what we want to see when we read another posters comments lol.
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