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Re: Current State of Rangers

#21
Mages didn't get any boost. Those 8k skill hits take a loong time to recharge so the DPS isn't that great. Also they probably have 50/35 points into it an 1000+ focus.

My mage gets out dps'd by rogues all the time now. Now I wonder how many of the beta testers *cough* avalon *couogh* were rogues?

Have you not been playing since update or something ? Mages are destroying every class with dps , it's not even close .

Now to the op , I couldn't agree more . I wouldn't even mind being a secondary dps if our support skills were good enough but sadly they are second rate . Sure sharpen weapons is decent but remember it's pierce damage so it is highly resisted it does not come close to poison weapon as far as total dps . I have not used steady much in live game but lasti had checked in beta it wasn't nerfed although I could certainly be wrong about that . Defensive spikes and sharpen weapons would be great support skills if rangers had assassins lure lol it's messed up that to be a great support toon we need another support toon to make it possible. In be tai also recommended rapid shot be made an aoe group skill , this would help tremendously with making rangers a better support player .

Currently there is a lack of balance between the classes , I have faith that otm will make adjustments .

What skills are mages using to destroy everyone in DPS?

I'm pretty sure none of the skills have a higher true dps than shards or firebolt...

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Re: Current State of Rangers

#22
Mages didn't get any boost. Those 8k skill hits take a loong time to recharge so the DPS isn't that great. Also they probably have 50/35 points into it an 1000+ focus.

My mage gets out dps'd by rogues all the time now. Now I wonder how many of the beta testers *cough* avalon *couogh* were rogues?

Have you not been playing since update or something ? Mages are destroying every class with dps , it's not even close .

Now to the op , I couldn't agree more . I wouldn't even mind being a secondary dps if our support skills were good enough but sadly they are second rate . Sure sharpen weapons is decent but remember it's pierce damage so it is highly resisted it does not come close to poison weapon as far as total dps . I have not used steady much in live game but lasti had checked in beta it wasn't nerfed although I could certainly be wrong about that . Defensive spikes and sharpen weapons would be great support skills if rangers had assassins lure lol it's messed up that to be a great support toon we need another support toon to make it possible. In be tai also recommended rapid shot be made an aoe group skill , this would help tremendously with making rangers a better support player .

Currently there is a lack of balance between the classes , I have faith that otm will make adjustments .

What skills are mages using to destroy everyone in DPS?

I'm pretty sure none of the skills have a higher true dps than shards or firebolt...
Pretty much all the new op ice skills and shards. All does insane damage and dot. Havent you played mage after update???
Lunar

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Re: Current State of Rangers

#23
@uzi and all ranger haters
Light heal has been nerfed. atleast for me it has gone from 430 to 351 at (25/25) so its not close to same ability/level/stat point natures touch

Very few rangers can bolas a boss. All the spells tear us up. Only bosses like astrial that cant distance skill are able to be soloed from bolas. Unless its lvl 200 ranger with the right build.
Every update is making rangers bolas less and less effected. (update2 94% movement reduced no aviods)(update3 lvl controls how slow bolas makes mob run, can be evaded, tons of boss skilling makes bolas less useful)(update4 same as update 3 but mobs skill more and more from a distance making bolas even more useless.)(update5 rangers will start to drop bolas if the pattern continues.
Bolas is good for soloing if you like very slow kills and running half of the time and getting avoided half the time. Quit complaining about bolas.

Rapid shot now lasts like 1/4 to 1/3 of the cooldown at like 35/35 at level 1 it doesnt help at all. Rate of fire is also much slower then the old 50% I can hardly see a speed increase when wearing heroic gloves.

Please explain this OP offhand trident???

Nothing is wrong with having same armor

Our auto damage is less than rogues no matter what if we have same equipment. Mages normally out dps if mixed or all dps build.

Ranger wep a little stronger then rogue
Ranger wep speed much slower then rogue
=rogues dps is better

If any class besides maybe druid(would help with adds) had the same camo skills, very few would use the skill like the rangers that rarely use. Not a legitiment point.

Overall Rangers didnt get too many upgrades but got alot of nerfs.
Back to OP
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#25
Not sure what happened with mages. They used to top out at 3k with shards, people said they are OP, and first 5 min of update I see mages hitting 5-7k with it while not getting any new gear but the lux offhand.

All that happened with rogues were their skills were made useable, which they completely ditched in the past. Now they need a regen item to use skills, so while they are a little better, rogue DPS is not a huge amount better. Not saying to nerf Mage, but Rogue needs to be top DPS as mage beats them out in almost every other desirable category. Rogue is basically like Mages ugly little brother.

Ranger needs some kind of boost. I agree with most of what has been said by Aly and Elim. I think more damage from skills plus looking into their support role is a much needed fix.

Overall class balance seems horrible to me, which is something we discussed in depth in beta, so don't think us to be bums. The good thing is that OTM does listen to our opinions and the update just came out so I expect them to fix a lot in the coming week.
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Re: Current State of Rangers

#26
Rangers were never bottom dps they were kings for a year is the luck of the straw .... Warriors have been bottom for ahead and now finnally they can out dps a druid because druids got nerfted.

Mages got damage cap to bosses and mob about their levels really bad regardless of skill Points, lures and. You don't see no mage complaints about it....
Last edited by Baron on Thu May 09, 2013 9:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Current State of Rangers

#27
So because all this getting nerfed, I will most likely:
•Suck at lvling
•Die more often
•More downtime between mobs, on elixir/without
•I will do way less dps in bossfights due to rapid nerfed (apparently instant cast but very long cool down.)

I have been my own original ranger for the past two years on this game, ok? This is what I use:

•Bolas 24/25
•Light Heal 25/25
•Rapid Shot 10/25
•Steady Aim 25/25

Will this probably have to change? I've had this base ever since I found i do more dps with it, but obviously it's a pile of deaths and fails now. We rangers seem to get new skills but no increases in old skills, only nerfing here, nerfing there. Because at lvl 105, I don't see myself reaching lvl 110 at the base of the ranger class. Fix it OTM, I don't wana have my rogue my main class because rangers are awesome.

•Leave rapid shot how it was
•Put light heal back, we don't need lowest Dps and
highest deaths
•This will have a major effect with rapid shot in bossfights, no more killing Ironspike Gem for me....
•And lastly, I liked rangers the most in update 2. Yep, update(2)

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