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Re: Ranger class

#41
But wut if we don't wanna sacrifice dmg for range(spear build) then we should be able to match a rogue's dps right?

no, you chose the ranged class
Then how come we were given the option to have spear builds
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Re: Ranger class

#42
Mages should still have more dmg than rogue
Also what range? Except for aoe ofc. Im talking about hitting a kp mob and get like 2 hits then its attacking u .what is the point?
Just watch mclovin or baronian solo chained king with bolas.

Re: Ranger class

#43
Mages should still have more dmg than rogue
Also what range? Except for aoe ofc. Im talking about hitting a kp mob and get like 2 hits then its attacking u .what is the point?
Just watch mclovin or baronian solo chained king with bolas.


Obviously you don't know how to use bolas, I have never heard about these guy's but I assume they know how to use bolas so ya, watch the video.

Ranger's have one of the most practical roles in the game, the only thing, it's not a group role, ranger's are the best solo class in the game. They have an extremely unique debuff skill that just needs to be fixed (entangle). Also I'm pretty sure rangers are also the only other class besides warriors that can consistently hold aggro against full dps rogues and mages. (If I'm correct bolas forces the mob to target the person who cast it and bolas runs out on the mob after it's ready to re-cast so you could hold aggro the whole fight)

I'm perfectly happy with the ranger class right now, I use double for extra dmg and just have buffs, heals and debuff's to fill up the rest of skill slots, I think theirs a lot of secondary roles for rangers if someone made a tank spear ranger guide and a support spear ranger guide maybe people would see how versatile ranger's can be.

Everybody says that the ranger class is broken because of it's lack of instant dmg skills and dps but when I played rogue I used to think, use the highest number of hight instant damaging skills, but that just didn't satisfy me, sneaky reloaded to slow, double didn't do enough dmg and took to long to cast ( with daggers that take under 2.5 seconds for auto it almost did the same dmg as auto because auto was fast) Now I have a fast dagger build doing good amounts of dmg every hit and hitting every second or so only using SS and Quick Strike for instant dmg skills.

Every one seems to complain about rangers not having as good dps as rogue's, but thats the way it is and should be, rangers have just as good armor and are ranged so they cant have all advantages rangers have range, rogues have dps.

Rangers are best solo class, better tanks than rogue's (If I'm not mistaken about bolas) are ranged and very good support. Just because their not the best dps doesn't mean their broken and if you want instant dmg skills and hight dps you can play rogue, warrior or mage. People need to get the idea that every class has a specific role out of their heads. Rogues will have best dps, and druids will always have the best heal, warriors best tank and Mages best support dps. Every class can have many roles and people need to stop thinking the opposite. Ranger class will alway's be best solo class and people like me who like it the way it is will keep playing ranger and other people will quit. I personally don't understand why people think ranger skills are broken, yes rangers main stat is str and skills dex ( maybe that could be changed) but the skills that are ''broken'' our instant dmg witch I'm fine withought.

Re: Ranger class

#45
Mages have weakest armor so why should they not be top dps?
Because mages have lures which are the best debuffs in the game.
Rangers have almost exact gear as a rogue why should they not have equal dps?
Because rogues sacrifice range for damage. Rangers sacrifice damage for range.
Rogues have debuffs as well: smoke bomb, expose weakness...
Rogues have defensive skills to compensate being up close such fast reflexes, life steal, distract, play dead.
And on top of all that a ridiculous amount of burst damage. OP
Albericus of Herne
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Ranger skills still broken...

Re: Ranger class

#47
@Sam
No bolas is bolas not taunt...
Mages and rogues can easily get aggro over a ranger it happens all the time.
Skill are the main source of aggro. Simply casting bolas and then auto attacking is not going to hold aggro.. Yet that's what nearly every ranger in the game does because most ranger skills are broken.
Albericus of Herne
Lazydrunks founder
Ranger skills still broken...

Re: Ranger class

#48
Mages have weakest armor so why should they not be top dps?
Because mages have lures which are the best debuffs in the game.
Rangers have almost exact gear as a rogue why should they not have equal dps?
Because rogues sacrifice range for damage. Rangers sacrifice damage for range.
Rogues have debuffs as well: smoke bomb, expose weakness...
Rogues have defensive skills to compensate being up close such fast reflexes, life steal, distract, play dead.
And on top of all that a ridiculous amount of burst damage. OP
Lures vs expose/smoke? That's like comparing shadowstrike to sharp shot in terms of usefulness.
Try doing 200 spider without lures and see how long it takes. Then try doing 200 spider without smoke or expose.
Lures amplify soooo much more damage than smoke or expose do.

Fast reflexes does not help you avoid AoE.
Distract does not help you avoid AoE.
Play dead does not help you avoid AoE. Also it fails to lose you aggro on most 6* bosses anyway (boss "sees through your trickery"). And it reduces your resistance so it hurts more than it helps.

Yes, life steal is an awesome skill. Yes, rogue burst damage is top. But remember we step into AoE range for that.

Re: Ranger class

#49
like swan said... you can't compare them because theyre diferent...
lures lower their resistances to particular hits you do, which results into 30-40% stronger hits than without
expose weakness and smoke bomb just lowers their evasion and defence...
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Re: Ranger class

#50
Here are a few AoEs that rangers don't need to suffer.

Acid Burst (Spider Queen AoE)
6* does 8k poison damage

Spirit Shock (Boggan AoE)
6* does 6k physical damage

Tribal Blade (Boggan AoE)
6* does 5k physical damage

Body Slam (Bolg AoE)
6* does 4k physical damage

Smash (Bolg/Troll AoE)
6* does 6k physical damage

Great Strike (Sreng AoE)
6* does 14k physical damage

Stunning Blow (Mord Sentinel AoE)
5* does 15k physical damage

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