Celtic Heroes

Here are a few AoEs that rangers don't need to suffer.

Acid Burst (Spider Queen AoE)
6* does 8k poison damage

Spirit Shock (Boggan AoE)
6* does 6k physical damage

Tribal Blade (Boggan AoE)
6* does 5k physical damage

Body Slam (Bolg AoE)
6* does 4k physical damage

Smash (Bolg/Troll AoE)
6* does 6k physical damage

Great Strike (Sreng AoE)
6* does 14k physical damage

Stunning Blow (Mord Sentinel AoE)
5* does 15k physical damage

Might have to remove the spider queen AoE as it can be easily avoided by going behind it.

Since rogues get to sacrifice their survivability for better DPS, us rangers have to sacrifice our DPS, have liability of skills for survivability.

Now tell me, in a DPS oriented game, where platinum items are extremey easy to come by, it should be obvious why rangers are neglected by players.

Swan,

We don't have to suffer that but while we're pulling our string back to release our first arrow, rogues have had the chance to use shadowstrike, sneaky attack, quick strike and are probably in the process of casting rend when Snorri hits them with Body Slam. If you haven't played the rogue/ranger classes in parallel, you haven't experienced this first - hand.

Swan,

We don't have to suffer that but while we're pulling our string back to release our first arrow, rogues have had the chance to use shadowstrike, sneaky attack, quick strike and are probably in the process of casting rend when Snorri hits them with Body Slam. If you haven't played the rogue/ranger classes in parallel, you haven't experienced this first - hand.

That's why we never see rangers get kills. Oh wait, they do periodically. They aren't the dps class and should not compete with one for dps.

Swan,

We don't have to suffer that but while we're pulling our string back to release our first arrow, rogues have had the chance to use shadowstrike, sneaky attack, quick strike and are probably in the process of casting rend when Snorri hits them with Body Slam. If you haven't played the rogue/ranger classes in parallel, you haven't experienced this first - hand.

That's why we never see rangers get kills. Oh wait, they do periodically. They aren't the dps class and should not compete with one for dps.

And who said yakat would be the one to decide who is the dps class in this game?

OKAY LISTEN UP! *warning this will probably be a slight rant*

I AM TIRED OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH AND DEFEND THE RANGER RIGHT TO FLIPPIN DPS IN A TOTALLY 100% DPS-BASED GAME.

WE RANGERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE MIRROR CLASS OF ROGUES.

ROGUES DIDNT DECIDE TO START CALLING THEMSELVES THE DPS KINGS UNTIL THIS FOURTH VERSION.

THIS VERSION HAS KILLED RANGER AND MAGE DPS.

IF WE HAVE THE SAME ARMOR ROGUES DO WE SHOULD HAVE COMPARABLE DMG.

WARRIORS HAVE MORE ARMOR THAN WE DO. WHO CARES? THEY CAN EVEN OUTDPS US CONSTANTLY UNTIL ENDGAME- AND EVEN THEN ITS DEBATEABLE.

DRUIDS, THE LEAST-DPS-ORIENTED CLASS IN THE WHOLE GAME CONSISTENTLY GET KILLS OVER US RANGERS.

Okay, so now that I got all that out...

Rangers aren't asking to be the best dps in game no matter our gear, build, skills, or level. We just want what everyone else wants (or should want [for their class]) for our class: Comparable dps. If a ranger and rogue have the same build with similar skills, then they should have comparable dmg. instead, in this "lovely" version rogues take it all. The only time rangers have a chance at not being outdpsed by rogues 10-30 levels lower than them is at endgame with the dl quiver. That, in case people haven't noticed, is UNFAIR. THAT IS ALL WE ARE TRYING TO FLIPPIN SAY!

What if a rogue couldn't get quickstrike, lifesteal, and shadowstrike until he was level 180? How about he also couldn't get an offhand? And, for kicks, lets say he couldn't even get fast reflexes til then. If such a thing happened, very few people would be playing a rogue. Now think about what I have said here (rogues, NON-RANGERS in general, and rangers). Think up a good and (please) give me an intelligent response. I know many people (like swan and yakat for example) really are smart and intelligent- though both can be occasionally frustrating just like the rest of us.

What I am trying to say is this: try and walk a mile in someone else's shoes before you judge them.

To translate a little better: Try and play a class before you judge it.

Anyone think if our bows had the speed of a rogues dagger it would make a difference?

If anyone is interested, the upcoming yule boss event drops (obelisks) have poison resistance which eliminates a number of rogue skills being effective.

Like damn it's not like we're asking to top dps pvp superstar solo Mordris MVP, we just want our skills to be WORTH USING.

Like damn it's not like we're asking to top dps pvp superstar solo Mordris MVP, we just want our skills to be WORTH USING.

they are worth using
dont wanna use them? feel free to choose from 4 other classes

Like damn it's not like we're asking to top dps pvp superstar solo Mordris MVP, we just want our skills to be WORTH USING.

they are worth using
dont wanna use them? feel free to choose from 4 other classes

So... you use sharp shot, barbed shot, explosive arrow, and defensive spikes then? gtfo troll

i use some of them. when i chose ranger class ive seen the pros and cons
did you?
just quit ranger n play somethin else you whiner