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Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:38 am
by Rand3Althor
Hey just wondering if rapid shot is still useful if you have heroic gloves of haste?

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:32 am
by KiyKiy
It can still be useful, as the speed of rapid shot is obviously faster than the haste gloves' 130% attack speed. The two effects simply do not stack together (or with haste pots/elixirs), otherwise your hands would be moving at an inhuman speed.

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:16 pm
by Fletch
Rapid and gloves stack but rapid and potions /elixers dont ... i tested

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:09 pm
by Funnish
No haste buffs stack.
Gloves cancel normal speed so 130% increase
Rapidshot cancel gloves so 150% increase
Haste elix cancel rapidshot so 150% increase for the time of your elixer.

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:21 am
by D0nk0
No haste buffs stack.
Gloves cancel normal speed so 130% increase
Rapidshot cancel gloves so 150% increase
Haste elix cancel rapidshot so 150% increase for the time of your elixer.
Damn, I never realised a super cancelled rapid shot.
So basically as a strength ranger I might as well only use steady aim when on a super combo?

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:18 am
by Fletch
Yea

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:27 pm
by Landoril
No haste buffs stack.
Gloves cancel normal speed so 130% increase
Rapidshot cancel gloves so 150% increase
Haste elix cancel rapidshot so 150% increase for the time of your elixer.
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I don't believe that all these rules are correct.

When I am using gloves and then use Rapid Shot I can clearly count double (?) the amount of shots while it is active, which reduces when it is in cool down.

Also when on Elixir I see the same type of countable increase when Rapid is active, though exact % escapes me.

However I don't know if all three stack as I have never had Elixir without gloves to give 3 separate counts to compare. I suspect Elixir cancels out gloves.

Oh and I am counting floating numbers not animations which should be more exact.

Perhaps the secret is in the wording. There is no reference to Haste effect in the skill description for Rapid Shot " Speeds up your Bow or Spear".

The designers may have not wanted to remove an important skill buff and left it to stack with Haste Effects where the descriptions say "reduce Attack Speed" not speed up.

Could Rapid leave Attack Speed alone and just double the number of attack?
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Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:54 am
by Fletch
No haste buffs stack.
Gloves cancel normal speed so 130% increase
Rapidshot cancel gloves so 150% increase
Haste elix cancel rapidshot so 150% increase for the time of your elixer.
.
I don't believe that all these rules are correct.

When I am using gloves and then use Rapid Shot I can clearly count double (?) the amount of shots while it is active, which reduces when it is in cool down.

Also when on Elixir I see the same type of countable increase when Rapid is active, though exact % escapes me.

However I don't know if all three stack as I have never had Elixir without gloves to give 3 separate counts to compare. I suspect Elixir cancels out gloves.

Oh and I am counting floating numbers not animations which should be more exact.

Perhaps the secret is in the wording. There is no reference to Haste effect in the skill description for Rapid Shot " Speeds up your Bow or Spear".

The designers may have not wanted to remove an important skill buff and left it to stack with Haste Effects where the descriptions say "reduce Attack Speed" not speed up.

Could Rapid leave Attack Speed alone and just double the number of attack?
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I like this .

Nuff said

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:21 am
by Funnish
No haste buffs stack.
Gloves cancel normal speed so 130% increase
Rapidshot cancel gloves so 150% increase
Haste elix cancel rapidshot so 150% increase for the time of your elixer.
.
I don't believe that all these rules are correct.

When I am using gloves and then use Rapid Shot I can clearly count double (?) the amount of shots while it is active, which reduces when it is in cool down.

Also when on Elixir I see the same type of countable increase when Rapid is active, though exact % escapes me.

However I don't know if all three stack as I have never had Elixir without gloves to give 3 separate counts to compare. I suspect Elixir cancels out gloves.

Oh and I am counting floating numbers not animations which should be more exact.

Perhaps the secret is in the wording. There is no reference to Haste effect in the skill description for Rapid Shot " Speeds up your Bow or Spear".

The designers may have not wanted to remove an important skill buff and left it to stack with Haste Effects where the descriptions say "reduce Attack Speed" not speed up.

Could Rapid leave Attack Speed alone and just double the number of attack?
.
Prior to otherworld patch, the speed of your attack was increased with the amount of points you put into the skill, now it only extends it by a few seconds and shortly reduces the cooldown time, rapidshot is just a mini haste elixer that costs you energy instead of platnium

Re: Rapid shot still useful with heroic gloves of haste?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:36 am
by meepol
Idc what u guys say bout rapid shot.

The only time rapid shot is useless in is when ur on a supa combo elixer.

Other than that, it is really really usefull and I'd suggest it to anybody.

It's ok to have rapid shot only ungraded to half, as long as it satisfies ur dps standards.


Uh crud,... I couldn't be botherd reading rest of post -.-
Umm.... I agre with that the other guy said :?