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Ranger Skills

#1
Right now, I tend to favor the Sharp Shot, Rapid Shot, and Light Heal. Wish I would've put more stats into bolas, but still occasionally comes in handy. Never put much into the Recuperate and only 6 into Meditate, but I still use them. Tried to level Barbed Shot, Camouflage, and Steady Aim, but they never seemed to help too much. Once I got Light Heal, I stopped using Bandage Wounds.

I plan to redo my skills soon and was thinking of maxing out Sharp Shot, Rapid Shot, and Light Heal, keeping about the same amount in Meditate, putting the remainder into Bolas, and just leaving everything else at one.

Does anyone have any reccomendations or see something that could be improved?

I should probably mention that my main is a level 80.
Last edited by Alesta on Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Ranger Skills

#2
as ranger never use bandage.
its stupid rangers got 2nd best heal skill in game: light heal.

for ur skills idk depends on ur lvl and stuff.

u can see it like its the ranger who make the ranger.
Bobotten
Morrigan
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#3
First we gotta know are you dex based or dps ( str ) ?

I am dps with both bow and knuckles so i have the following

max stead aim - I really like steady aim, as it adds about 50 damage to my attack
max light heal
max conceal - not good around eyes but good on everything else
max bolas - trust me you will need it!
max rapid shot ( i max because of knuckles, but before i had 10 points in it )

If your dex based then instead of max rapid shot, max sharp shot.

At level 80, you should be able to bolas a eye, rapid shot / sharp shot (dex) and tank out the rest. 1 star should die before they hit you, 3 star you may need to heal once during the fight. Easy killing until level 100.

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#4
First we gotta know are you dex based or dps ( str ) ?

I am dps with both bow and knuckles so i have the following

max stead aim - I really like steady aim, as it adds about 50 damage to my attack
max light heal
max conceal - not good around eyes but good on everything else
max bolas - trust me you will need it!
max rapid shot ( i max because of knuckles, but before i had 10 points in it )

If your dex based then instead of max rapid shot, max sharp shot.

At level 80, you should be able to bolas a eye, rapid shot / sharp shot (dex) and tank out the rest. 1 star should die before they hit you, 3 star you may need to heal once during the fight. Easy killing until level 100.
+1 to just about everything. However, I do not see the point in putting points into conceal. Rapidshot is another point on which I disagree with you. Keep it at one, as it works the same except costs less energy and shorter cd. Also if you have heroic gloves of haste, one doesnt need rapid, as rapid cancels the glove effects if rapid is in use. I am a dex ranger, and I use steady aim, light heal, sharp shot, and defensive spikes, all maxed. Bolas has some value in it if one is bossing, and at times in ow it can be handy I suppose. But thats not the way I personally fight. If you have no energy regen, make sure you have plenty of points in meditation- my rogue has it so it does 13 a tick, and he has only 91 energy for example. it refills extremely fast, allowing him to go out and kill more mobs in less time. Believe me, its worth it! :D
Belenus
Napstrike- 88+ DPS Rogue- Ninja Pirates
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Morrigan
Napol- 130+ Hybrid Ranger
Napol2- 83 DPS Rogue

Re: Ranger Skills

#5
This should clear things up Napol.

At level 80 your fighting eyes. Conceal does not work on eyes. Once you get to trees, horses, and rock guys you will need it. Higher level groups also ask for it so they can get to tight areas or just to make boss fights easier. I felt the same way you did - conceal sucks - until i got past eyes and into trees. Try running to the second otherworld laystone without getting hit ;)

Next is rapid shot. If your doing DEX then rapid shot does not matter, and you should keep it at 1. If your doing DPS then increase rapid shot so that you can bolas, run away to max targeting distance, and cast rapid. Have enough points in rapid shot so that rapid runs out right when the mob gets to hitting distance. Bolas and repeat for hard mobs, or tank the rest. With a quartz bow you should be able to tank the rest with not much trouble. When you get to the eyes that freeze you, save rapid shot until they cast icy glaze. Rapid shot above a certain level will cancel out the freeze spell ( a life saver). Now for a knuckle build, you want rapid shot at max so that you get the max benefit since you must switch gear during battle. Also note that depending on WHEN you cast rapid shot, you lose 1 shot at the start of the spell and 1 shot at the end. So at level 1 you don't really get as much benefit. And you wanna talk about haste gloves, I have 30% haste gloves and rapid shot is still way faster.

Next, if your telling me bolas is only good at boss fights, i am wondering where your soloing. MAYBE at stone vale bolas is not needed, but trust me if you wanna solo and not group train you better have bolas. Its like having the mob at 1/2 life by the time they reach you. If it wasn't for bolas i would not be able to train solo at all in otherworld. Well maybe with a ton of pots. And if you light heal the entire fight its very inefficient soloing, and at higher levels with horses and trees it won't work.

Defensive spikes. Yay, defensive spikes. It looks really cool. It doesn't help much and is a waste of points. Well i should say it could help if you have the right group, but solo its worthless. Remember, I'm trying to help Alesta solo.

plus 13 per tick is alright for meditation, but i would recommend you buy a rejuv ring for 25k and lux shop in otherworld. Plus 5 all the time is as good as plus 13 after you cast meditation. And most people can spend the 25k. This would allow more points for other things.

Re: Ranger Skills

#6
Rapid shot is 50% haste gloves are 30% , I like to use both might as well always be hasted , remember rapid is only active 50% of the time . I like spikes but I know I am in the minority on this one , most rangers don't like the skill btw spikes is the coolest animation in the game IMO .

I've tested rapid quite a bit , it does not seem to lose a shot at start or finish , I test by bringing my ranger and warrior to arena and watch my warriors health as each shot hits . So that being said I love rapid at 1/35 any points in it are simply wasted IMO .
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Re: Ranger Skills

#7
Spikes are so cool, but I have it maxed and it does 32 damage while my bow does 300. Its cool for leveling friends tho it does 70.

I use knuckles so I have rapid at max, but without a rejuv its hard to put points in it.

maybe I'm going crazy but when I cast rapid half the time I lose a shot. It shows the shot but it does no damage.

Re: Ranger Skills

#8
This should clear things up Napol.

At level 80 your fighting eyes. Conceal does not work on eyes. Once you get to trees, horses, and rock guys you will need it. Higher level groups also ask for it so they can get to tight areas or just to make boss fights easier. I felt the same way you did - conceal sucks - until i got past eyes and into trees. Try running to the second otherworld laystone without getting hit ;)

Next is rapid shot. If your doing DEX then rapid shot does not matter, and you should keep it at 1. If your doing DPS then increase rapid shot so that you can bolas, run away to max targeting distance, and cast rapid. Have enough points in rapid shot so that rapid runs out right when the mob gets to hitting distance. Bolas and repeat for hard mobs, or tank the rest. With a quartz bow you should be able to tank the rest with not much trouble. When you get to the eyes that freeze you, save rapid shot until they cast icy glaze. Rapid shot above a certain level will cancel out the freeze spell ( a life saver). Now for a knuckle build, you want rapid shot at max so that you get the max benefit since you must switch gear during battle. Also note that depending on WHEN you cast rapid shot, you lose 1 shot at the start of the spell and 1 shot at the end. So at level 1 you don't really get as much benefit. And you wanna talk about haste gloves, I have 30% haste gloves and rapid shot is still way faster.

Next, if your telling me bolas is only good at boss fights, i am wondering where your soloing. MAYBE at stone vale bolas is not needed, but trust me if you wanna solo and not group train you better have bolas. Its like having the mob at 1/2 life by the time they reach you. If it wasn't for bolas i would not be able to train solo at all in otherworld. Well maybe with a ton of pots. And if you light heal the entire fight its very inefficient soloing, and at higher levels with horses and trees it won't work.

Defensive spikes. Yay, defensive spikes. It looks really cool. It doesn't help much and is a waste of points. Well i should say it could help if you have the right group, but solo its worthless. Remember, I'm trying to help Alesta solo.

plus 13 per tick is alright for meditation, but i would recommend you buy a rejuv ring for 25k and lux shop in otherworld. Plus 5 all the time is as good as plus 13 after you cast meditation. And most people can spend the 25k. This would allow more points for other things.
I might just try not to get hit once without using conceal. would be an interesting challenge. I can make it all the way into lava fields with about 7 light heals en totale. This includes golems in very inconvenient spots. The dominator is easy to get to though, rockalanche is harder by a bit and a half. Deepcaller is easy to get to for me personally. I might try going around the wyverns more in lava fields, I might just be able to get to aggy without conceal... that would be sooooo cool. I dont use idols pretty much, so I have to depend on me avoiding attacks by mobs more often than most CH players. ;)

For rapid I prefer to not use it as I have haste gloves and it works more effiecently than rapid. Example is go to the one corner in farcrag. With your bow try to shoot and kill all 3 dummys before any respawn. (U being dps this might not work as well but when I did it with about 100+ in strength I couldnt). With the gloves and no rapid, U cn kill all the dummys and wait around a bit before the first one respawns. I personally would recommend rapid at 1, and use until one has heroic haste gloves.

For where I train yea ur right I train on stupid eye balls. :lol: But I can get to pretty much any tree without help from others (havent tried oaks yet but I'd just ley to tower then go through golems as its waaaay easier.) For energy, if I have 20 per tick I never run out of energy, which means I can light heal and sharp and steady aim and spikes all day. :D I have fought against the lvl 100 trees in a grp, sometimes as the tank. I prefer this as I norm team up with a mage or two, and I can keep up with those trees with my light heal. A quick question: how much health do you have, being dps? When I say I tank through something I literally mean tank it. 1.1k+ hp and a 321 light heal (342 with golden quiv of ice), adds a fair bit to my health. I do around 100-150ish dmg per hit on an eye with my bow atm (again more dmg with ice quiv). Atm I have killed bolas, and I do not plan on putting any pts in it until my four skills that I use are maxed.

On to poor Defensive spikes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: They are very useful to me as a dex ranger, and have increased my dmg per hit to 100+ every time I cast it. I find it very useful. :)

Yes, I use those rings. I was saying that if one wants to gogogogogo, keep a bunch in meditation as it will help you immensely. Without many pts in med you will spend more time sitting around if you have a full health bar and little energy- which can be very frustrating to all in a grp, or even while soloing. Once one gets enough energy regen that they do not run out, kill med. period, as one doesnt need it any more. :D
I use knuckles so I have rapid at max, but without a rejuv its hard to put points in it.

maybe I'm going crazy but when I cast rapid half the time I lose a shot. It shows the shot but it does no damage.
Without rejuv... this is one of the main reasons I dont like rapid that much, it costs energy, and alot when its maxed.

this 'losing a shot' happens every time to me. :lol: I just thought that it was normal?
Belenus
Napstrike- 88+ DPS Rogue- Ninja Pirates
Napol- Ranger

Morrigan
Napol- 130+ Hybrid Ranger
Napol2- 83 DPS Rogue

Re: Ranger Skills

#9
Rapid shot is 50% haste gloves are 30% , I like to use both might as well always be hasted , remember rapid is only active 50% of the time . I like spikes but I know I am in the minority on this one , most rangers don't like the skill btw spikes is the coolest animation in the game IMO .

I've tested rapid quite a bit , it does not seem to lose a shot at start or finish , I test by bringing my ranger and warrior to arena and watch my warriors health as each shot hits . So that being said I love rapid at 1/35 any points in it are simply wasted IMO .
Spikes have a cool animation and do great damage if you got a mage with maxed ass lure.
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Re: Ranger Skills

#10
Thanks so much for all the opinions and advice. No doubt that I'm killing my bandage wounds and barbed shot and dividing the points up in to camouflage and bolas.
Thanks again! :D
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