Celtic Heroes

The Official Forum for Celtic Heroes, the 3D MMORPG for iOS and Android Devices

What is a Ranger: to anyone starting the game

#1
Posted this in general, but probably should have done it here in case anyone new is starting the game and wants to know what it means to be a ranger.

What Rangers Are:

1) A Ranger is a ranged attack class. We have a bow, meaning we can stand outside many of the range of many of the boss area attacks. We have several skills to use in this role, Sharp Shot, Barbed Shot, Explosive Arrow, and Steady Aim.

2) A Ranger is a Movement Support class. We slow the movement of bosses. We can slow down bosses allowing a tank to kite.

3) A Ranger is a CAN be a close melee class (h2h or spear). We are vulnerable to area attacks in this case, but do more DPS than
with our bows.

4) A Ranger is a secondary healer. Light Heal is better than Bandage Wounds, allowing us to heal tanks at bosses and in group leveling.

5) A Ranger provides damage buffs to the group. Sharpen Weapons and Defensive Spikes all help the group when leveling and when bossing.

6) Rangers hide well. Camo is now a real skill that helps when leveling and running to bosses for both ranger and group.

What Rangers are not:

1) The best DPS. I have tried every build with best gear Update 3 gear. A pure DPS Ranger will always beat out DPSed by any other class that is pure DPS. H2H, spear, or bow, it doesn't matter.

2) A solo class. Rangers do not have the armor to solo the game. I'm not talking about leveling, because every class can solo level with the right build. Bolas are ineffective to solo when so many mini bosses have ranged attacks that can hit us even when they are at a distance. IMHO, warriors are the only true solo class.

3) Tanks. We don't have the armor or buffs to be effective. I have tried Entangle, dex/vit with no strength, mountain shield, etc. Not even close to being able to tank as well as a warrior, rogue or mage.

4) Helpful at higher levels of update. Now, just like during Update 3, rangers are needed for bosses. However, as warriors and druids level, eventually everyone will start tanking bosses instead of kiting. It is already starting to happen on some of the new bosses. At that point, rangers will no longer be needed to boss.

5) Good at getting target lock. We just don't have a skill to match up against the other classes when it comes to doing a high level of damage in one hit. Rogues have Sneaky, Druids have Storm Touch, Mages have Ice Shards, and Warriors have Giant Swing. I've tested it, and yes, the other classes get lock every time with their skills.

6) Easy to play. You only get grouped by friends. Groups NEED a tank. Groups NEED healers. Groups NEED dps. As rangers aren't the best tanks, the best healers, or the best DPS, they will only get grouped if rogues and mages are not online.

Conclusion

IMHO, Rangers are truly a broken class because they just are not needed. As tanks and healers will eventually be able to overcome a boss, making the movement debuff irrelevant, rangers will not be NEEDED. As rogues and mages will out DPS a ranger, rangers are not NEEDED. The only way to fix it would be to make the Rangers the best at something that is NEEDED.

I'm not sure there is anything OTM can do to fix the class. Sad, but true. Now I need to go level my warrior.

A few words of note:

I've been playing this game for over a year. I've leveled everything 130+, taking a rogue, ranger and druid 150+ pre-update.

My main is a ranger. I love it.

I would not recommend anyone starting the game to play as a ranger. It is, by far, the worst class. Do yourself a favor, save yourself the grief, and choose another class.

Re: What is a Ranger: to anyone starting the game

#3
+1 Yes, thanks for the great post.

For me personally, your post, however, further engrained my choice to play a ranger. I started with a rogue, and when I found it didn't have enough energy to stay alive I thought I would start a druid to two box, to get my rogue up. That didn't work out and I played the druid up beyond the rogue, but stalled out because I don't get time to play for extended lengths of time, so grouping up with the clanmates to go bossing didn't happen. And with it being a support build, it took a long time to get anything killed. Not to mention I play mostly solo and minor grouping. So I started up a mage. It is cool killing things with one or two blasts, but if they aren't dead then the soft squishy mage dies. So I saved up gold (I don't go the plat route either) for healing/energy amulet or offhand. Reading the forums on mages and seeing everyone saying the spells are nerfed and move to another class. That sent me over to a Ranger. I played a Ranger in other MMORPGs and really liked the style of play. I used the mages gold to buy the best vendor bow I could and gave it to my fledgling ranger. I have only gotten him up to 37, so I don't know what it is like in the OW part of the game, but so far it is the best fun out of all the toons that I have rolled up. So, I am sticking with this class. And even with what you say, I see that as more of a challenge to figure out how to play the character without having to be the best at anything. It is these deficiencies that will make me want to explore the intangibles of the game, like seeking out a good clan that will have some focus on playing together rather then discriminate against me because my character is a ranger. The ranger can still be of help, even if they don't have something they do "best". It is more up to the player how they can have fun with the character. Does it have to be about being the best at something? Maybe, the best thing a ranger could be is a leader or one to rally groups for bossing. Sorry, rambled a bit...

Re: What is a Ranger: to anyone starting the game

#8
Yes. I agree that Rangers are no longer the best at anything, except perhaps slowing opponents movements. We are the step down class now. That said it can still be quite good fun to play as a ranger. Let us hope that OTM will fix us ASAP.
Belenus
Napstrike- 88+ DPS Rogue- Ninja Pirates
Napol- Ranger

Morrigan
Napol- 130+ Hybrid Ranger
Napol2- 83 DPS Rogue

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests