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help me with the math

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:37 pm
by Zyz
Okay yes I know a lot think spear rangers are a waste but let's throw that out for this thread. I'm trying to figure out which is more damage without spending a bunch of gold and then asking for returns.

So the 180 ranger spear is 175 pierce with offhand knuckles being 50 I believe.

However the mainhand knuckles are 45 dmg and super fast coupled with 150 offhand axe.

Then there's the spear 175 dmg main with the 150 offhand axe but would be quite a bit slower

I'm trying to figure out the best considering all those options.

The 180 bow is 150 pierce dmg which is pretty nice

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:35 pm
by undertaker199
I dont recomend spear for ranger , maybe u should stick to arrows n bows :)

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:40 am
by Zyz
I dont recomend spear for ranger , maybe u should stick to arrows n bows :)
Which is why I posted that I know spear rangers are not suggested but let's toss that out for this thread.

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:34 am
by Einherjar
Auto Attack Damage = [0.15818*sqrt(Strength) + 0.061069*sqrt(Weapon Ability) + 0.96523] * Physical Damage + Elemental Damage
With this formula you will know the dmg in your stat page.

Now, for which may deal more dmg in a time lapse of 1 minute, IIRC 60seconds/(speed/1000) OR 60000/speed.

This last formula will tell you how many hits each weapon deals over 1 minute. [NOTE. This doesn't take into account haste effects from Haste objects, Rapid shot, nor Haste elixers. IIRC the formula for haste is 1/(1+%haste), so divide HitsPerMinute/HasteFormula]

Finally, multiply HitsPerMinute*AutoDMG

Hope this info is right. And hope it helps. XD

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:14 pm
by Mildseven
Auto Attack Damage = [0.15818*sqrt(Strength) + 0.061069*sqrt(Weapon Ability) + 0.96523] * Physical Damage + Elemental Damage
With this formula you will know the dmg in your stat page.

Now, for which may deal more dmg in a time lapse of 1 minute, IIRC 60seconds/(speed/1000) OR 60000/speed.

This last formula will tell you how many hits each weapon deals over 1 minute. [NOTE. This doesn't take into account haste effects from Haste objects, Rapid shot, nor Haste elixers. IIRC the formula for haste is 1/(1+%haste), so multiply HitsPerMinute*HasteFormula]

Finally, multiply HitsPerMinute*AutoDMG

Hope this info is right. And hope it helps. XD
I dont understand anything. Lol

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:09 am
by Furyion
Auto Attack Damage = [0.15818*sqrt(Strength) + 0.061069*sqrt(Weapon Ability) + 0.96523] * Physical Damage + Elemental Damage
With this formula you will know the dmg in your stat page.

Now, for which may deal more dmg in a time lapse of 1 minute, IIRC 60seconds/(speed/1000) OR 60000/speed.

This last formula will tell you how many hits each weapon deals over 1 minute. [NOTE. This doesn't take into account haste effects from Haste objects, Rapid shot, nor Haste elixers. IIRC the formula for haste is 1/(1+%haste), so multiply HitsPerMinute*HasteFormula]

Finally, multiply HitsPerMinute*AutoDMG

Hope this info is right. And hope it helps. XD
I dont understand anything. Lol
Take the attack speed of the spear and see how many times that goes into 60000. Then take your answer and times it by your total damage with spear+offhand. Thats your damage per minute. Do the same with knuckles+offhand and compare.

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:50 pm
by Criminal
In order to save ur time on using Swan's formula (which is accurate), theres the skill/melee dmg calculator which is much easier and uses the same formula I believe.

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:07 pm
by Zyz
In order to save ur time on using Swan's formula (which is accurate), theres the skill/melee dmg calculator which is much easier and uses the same formula I believe.
Thanks for this suggestion. I'll search for it. But in case my search powers are weak, do you have a link?

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:40 am
by Criminal
In order to save ur time on using Swan's formula (which is accurate), theres the skill/melee dmg calculator which is much easier and uses the same formula I believe.
Thanks for this suggestion. I'll search for it. But in case my search powers are weak, do you have a link?
http://www.celticheroes.info/2014/06/le ... lator.html

I always use it when I wanna compare gear, that way I dont need to have the gear in order to compare it.

Re: help me with the math

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:49 am
by Genesis
I have been experimenting with spear builds with a strength mordy spear until I get the dl bow and have found that my autos have gone up a lot in just a dex build.