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Starting out! A guid to establishing yourself in CH

#1
Lately I noticed that their have been some newer players browsing the forums and not many posts/guides to really help them out. So I made this guide. If anyone has any ''guidable'' low lvl related questions I can add to the guide, so feel free.

So, if you are low lvl, have just started the game and don't know to much what you're doing! Then this is the guide for you.

P.S. If you buy plat, then feel free to use any of the later builds (stats, skills, etc) mentioned instead of the beginning ones ex: Riposte, SS.

At low lvl their are basically two types of builds. Strength build's and Dex builds (dagger). Every lvl, you gain 5 stat points, each section will tell you how to distribute your skill points each lvl according to the build and skills you use.

Strength Build: In a Strength build you should be using a 2/1/2 Vit/Dex/Str ratio to divide your points every lvl. Two points in vitality because you need to survive, 1 point in dex because you need to be able to hit and doge (some of your skills will also be dex based) and two points in strength because if you are using a strength build a lot of your skills should be based on str and you need to increase your auto.

Dex Build: For a Dex build you should be using a 2/2/1 Vit/Dex/Str ratio. Two points in vitality so you can survive, 2 points in dex so you can doge and hit more, in a dex build your skills should mainly be dex based, and 1 point in strength because you need to increase your auto (and some of your skills will still be strength based).

Skills: In a Dex Build, most of your skills should be Dex based, meaning the more points you put in to dex, the more powerful your skills become. A Dex build is usually chosen to support a fast weapon build (where you have less pierce dmg and a faster attack speed). Skills you should be using at lower lvls include Quick Strike, Poison Weapon and Fast Reflexes. By the time you first enter the Castle you should be lvl 4 or 5 and be almost, or almost able to max Quick Strike for your lvl. Then max Poison Weapon as you will get it next. Finally at around lvl 10 you should get Fast Reflexes which you will be able to max around lvl 15 when you can start upgrading your skills to lvl 10!

Skills: In a Strength Build you usually use a slower dagger (or spear which I will get in to later) and focus more on maximizing your auto and your instant dmg skills than your buff's. Skills you should use in a strength build are Quick Strike, Sneaky Attack and Rend. You will get all these skills by the time you leave Fracage castle. Do not use Hide, it may seem that you can't use Sneaky without it, but you can. If you select the mob you want to attack and then select Sneaky you will run up, start casting and then the mob will run up to you and it will still finish. You can cast it using this trick on all mobs but some ranged mobs. You will want to Max Quick Strike before you get to the castle, then upgrade Rend and Sneaky as you wish.

The Starting Quest: You will want to do the starting quest and completely finish it ASAP. Make sure you are at least lvl 20 before you finish though otherwise continuing later will be more difficult. If you have trouble with some of the harder mobs almost anyone should be willing to help you if you ask nicely. If you buy plat you should consider buying a Golden Bodkin of Spirits, Heroic Boots of Speed, Heroic Gloves of Haste and a Heroic Amulet of Rejuvenation. If you can get a Golden Helm of Blood Lust it is very good (no longer sells from vendor) Try to get these from other players but if not, you can get them at Quigley's shop (all but Helm). When buying from other player's you can hope for a little less than a 50k discount (depending on items). If buying from other players, try not to buy less than 15 k off. If you can find any dps gear that adds heat dmg great, use the the Jerkin and the Greaves. You can also buy some ancient lamelar greaves and jerkin as they are the best shop armor you can equip. Otherwise, the armor from the quest is very good, you should get the last piece from soldier in front of Tavern once you get the Havagard the Hairy quest from him. Once you finish the starting quest (kill Manus Blackstone) you should be at least lvl 20 so you can easily start the Shalemont quest line. You should buy a offhand rondel from the merchant in Dustwister (if you don't buy plat) and if you are using a Str build then get the dagger, if not then stick with the quest weapon and offhand rondel.

Shalemont: Once you finish the starting quest you should have your misc slot filled and one or two ring slots, (if you want their is a quest at the Temple of Belenus that gives you a ring for +5 armor) If you don't have hero amy, then go to the leystone right of castle on your map and get the quest their. You can teleport to all leystones (make sure to get the one at the boom of crook back hollow, this one always get's me) and then walk to the southern road (their should be a question mark on your map there) to get that leystone, teleport back to the druid and get the amy that gives +40 hp. Then back to southern road to do the quest and then into shalemont you go. Once you get to shalemont do the quest until you have to talk to Ranger Camryn. Before you do this talk to Doctor Cormak, he will give you a quest, for me their is a bug in it you pick up two medicine kits, then deliver one and have to re pick up another before you can deliver it again and then you have one extra one in your inventory that you have to drop. Do the shalemont quest and lvl till about lvl 50-55. You should now be able to finish the shalemont quest and go on to StoneVale. You will also be hight enough to go back to dustwister and get a quest from connatch the druid. At the end of the quest you get a Alteration book to alter your skill points. Also do the defector quest witch gives a nice bonus at the end.

Builds: In Shalemont many different skill options open up to you. First you should now have enough gold to get some other skills, like Riposte, Life Steal and Double. I highly recommend getting these skills as they are pretty good and may fit your play style better. Also in Shalemont, you will be hight enough lvl to start using 4 skills instead of 3. You also have the option of using a spear. Also energy should start becoming a problem. I suggest alway's to have meditate, recuperate and using bandage wounds at lvl one to cut down regen time if you don't have lux. Without lux 30 foc should be enough until you get your first piece of lux (if your not buying plat) at lvl 70. So make sure you have enough foc by adding all five of your stat points to it as needed every once and a while (until you have 30).

Spear Build: You now have the option to use a spear build, in a spear build you will want to use the str build suggested above, skills you will want to use will be double, quick, riposte and life steal. Reflexes also goes quite nicely with this build. Of cours you can play around with other skills but this is the build that has worked best for me and others I've talked to. I assume you also don't have tons of alt books to burn. You will want to use your skills in between your auto attacks as to maximise your dmg. The skill rotation i like to use is, Quick for opening, than Riposte, than double, than life steal if needed or else use quick and life steal whenever you need it if you haven't already, double and quick strike if needed. (the mob should be dead and if it isn't use any skill you can). I like to finish off with Life Steal even if you don't need it to bring you back to full health since it will be ready for next fight anyway.

Strength Dagger Build: You will want to stick with the strength build above for stats and for skills I recommend (pick four out of the following to max) Quick strike, Riposte,Sneaky, Double attack, Life Steal and reflexes. I personally don't like sneaky that much for lvling as you can only cast it once a fight if at all and has a loooooong recast time. I usually like to use the same opener every single time no matter what the build, so (Sneaky), quick, riposte, double, life steal, quick, double (the mob should be dead and if it isn't use any skill you can).

Dex Build: It's a little harder to use this build from now till when you get frozen dagger since their aren't really any suitable daggers for this build after the starting quest dagger unless you buy plat. With plat (aka lux) you can have a large amount of dmg coming from other places than your main hand so you should be ok until you can get a better weapon. (try to stay under 2000 attack speed). You will want to use the dex build recommended above and these skills (pick four out of the following to max). Poison weapon, quick strike, fast reflexes, Riposte, Life steal*. You really want SS with this build and a lot of dmg equipment to make it worth it. Has a lot of survivability but isn't as good as it is at higher lvls, since you have more dmg lux, and skills. I don't really recommend life steal if you can avoid it.

Stonevale: Quests you should do here are the Tam lin quests, the evil in stonevale and the Chaos wraith quest. You should have enough money to buy your first piece of lux now (should be energy regen so you can ditch your 30 foc) always try to get top of the line lux as it is better, you wont be replacing it as soon and other players will want to buy it from you. Things you will want to consider saving up for are golden blades, best offhands for your lvl and 10 energy and health regen braces. Talisman of slaying, ring of haste, brace of life and spirits, ring of life and spirits, axes of triumph and veteran helms should be considered at lvl 100 since they are very good. You will also want to get the skill shadow strike asap. These items may be hard to obtain but are worth it in the end.

I hope I helped and good luck heroes.

Re: Starting out! A guid to establishing yourself in CH

#5
idk about poison wep, i personally dislike the skill, but if u have low auto attack then it probably would help, and since u only need to cast it every once in a while u wont have as big a problem with energy

just wait until u get to high lvls using shadowstrike
33/30 and it costs me 81 energy :/
i cant imagine what a lvl 200 rogue with shadowstrike at 50/40 would be feeling
i need 50 energy regen to support me, and i still run out combined with my other skills

i give my sympathies to whichever high lvl rogues r out there who use skills like me but maxed
and i hope that when i get there ill have much more regen so i dont need to worry :D

Re: Starting out! A guid to establishing yourself in CH

#6
idk about poison wep, i personally dislike the skill, but if u have low auto attack then it probably would help, and since u only need to cast it every once in a while u wont have as big a problem with energy

just wait until u get to high lvls using shadowstrike
33/30 and it costs me 81 energy :/
i cant imagine what a lvl 200 rogue with shadowstrike at 50/40 would be feeling
i need 50 energy regen to support me, and i still run out combined with my other skills

i give my sympathies to whichever high lvl rogues r out there who use skills like me but maxed
and i hope that when i get there ill have much more regen so i dont need to worry :D
Dex builds are noticeably more energy hungry. Ss is a high energy consumer because of the relatively high energy cost and fast cool down.
However, once you have DL, your energy will rise quickly especially if you have a full set. With 5 focus (no points added) i have 2k energy thanks to my DL. If u see a high lvl rogue, look at the DL stats, nice energy buffs.
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Re: Starting out! A guid to establishing yourself in CH

#7
idk about poison wep, i personally dislike the skill, but if u have low auto attack then it probably would help, and since u only need to cast it every once in a while u wont have as big a problem with energy

just wait until u get to high lvls using shadowstrike
33/30 and it costs me 81 energy :/
i cant imagine what a lvl 200 rogue with shadowstrike at 50/40 would be feeling
i need 50 energy regen to support me, and i still run out combined with my other skills

i give my sympathies to whichever high lvl rogues r out there who use skills like me but maxed
and i hope that when i get there ill have much more regen so i dont need to worry :D
Dex builds are noticeably more energy hungry. Ss is a high energy consumer because of the relatively high energy cost and fast cool down.
However, once you have DL, your energy will rise quickly especially if you have a full set. With 5 focus (no points added) i have 2k energy thanks to my DL. If u see a high lvl rogue, look at the DL stats, nice energy buffs.
wow i didnt think it added that much :o
cant wait until DL stuff

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