Runic or stargem str ammy either is fine
Edl weps are fine, wouldn't bother with a dark or shadow gele wep, void you should take.
For charm either gara bladeleaf, skain stormleaf or godly recast sneaky.
Braces you probably want gele, dagger heat damage ones or prot attack both are about equal.
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#12Do you think void gele weapon is better than EDL? If so, why?Runic or stargem str ammy either is fine
Edl weps are fine, wouldn't bother with a dark or shadow gele wep, void you should take.
For charm either gara bladeleaf, skain stormleaf or godly recast sneaky.
Braces you probably want gele, dagger heat damage ones or prot attack both are about equal.
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#13Don't know exactly without testing but as str boosts rogue skills and the 8k magic damage skill is similar to a divine proc it may end up being better. Especially on edl 5/6 and hrung. On large raids like necro, mord, and gele elemental seems to do almost nothing and I would use the edl dagger for divine crit over void.Do you think void gele weapon is better than EDL? If so, why?Runic or stargem str ammy either is fine
Edl weps are fine, wouldn't bother with a dark or shadow gele wep, void you should take.
For charm either gara bladeleaf, skain stormleaf or godly recast sneaky.
Braces you probably want gele, dagger heat damage ones or prot attack both are about equal.
Rings, 2 necro blood, 1 reaper 1 divine.
Re: Question for full Doch G rogues
#14Hi, full dg rogue here
Storm charm/blade charm isnt optimal in dg, cooldown charms are better, 90-100 damage charms are better. Why? Because 250 attack is nothing when you have 11k unlixed, and 145 str is nothing when you have 1750+.
Void Gele daggers are stronger than edl on proteus, edls/dls if hasted, and events depending on element, but edl wep is the safest and most consistent dps weapon.Id reccomend 1 prot brace and 1 ingenuity (high tier only) on paper, runic ammy over stargem because elemental damage trumps physical gains from the str of stargem (unless on 205/210 edl or ice weak events) and because it opens the door to hotbar swapping the ammy slot without gimping any potential ammy skill. for rings, 2 dagg, 1 divine, reaper
Despite people believing otherwise (with no testing, just hearsay from other rogues around forums/ingame) Poison does up to about 25-30% of max dmg on proteus and gelebron, how to test? Watch for shadowstrike and pounce crits, divide your highest one in a number of raids by two, then divide that by your max stated damage. Fire/ice/magic on raids? 15-25% of max damage depending on strength of the lure and the boss in question. That means poison is still overall the least resisted on raids (not necro duh) and is easily the strongest on all unlured reg mobs whether in tower or not. Just because your ss hits 3k on tower mobs instead of 4k doesnt make poison dmg or dex builds bad.
Theres also some even stupider misconception that magic damage is the strongest in tower, and its not. Theres never been any maths to back it up, it was a rumor based on guesses about tower resists that they latched onto once they saw rogue dg set was magic damage
Saying this as a rogue who has tested many different builds/items/gear setups, has debates/theorycrafting on dps related crap with other rogues/rangers/mages across multiple servers on a weekly basis, owner of stargem setup, runic setup, skain poison set, and former owner of skain storm and skain/gara blade charms (sold/gave away after a bunch of testing showed they werent as good as what i already had)
Storm charm/blade charm isnt optimal in dg, cooldown charms are better, 90-100 damage charms are better. Why? Because 250 attack is nothing when you have 11k unlixed, and 145 str is nothing when you have 1750+.
Void Gele daggers are stronger than edl on proteus, edls/dls if hasted, and events depending on element, but edl wep is the safest and most consistent dps weapon.Id reccomend 1 prot brace and 1 ingenuity (high tier only) on paper, runic ammy over stargem because elemental damage trumps physical gains from the str of stargem (unless on 205/210 edl or ice weak events) and because it opens the door to hotbar swapping the ammy slot without gimping any potential ammy skill. for rings, 2 dagg, 1 divine, reaper
Despite people believing otherwise (with no testing, just hearsay from other rogues around forums/ingame) Poison does up to about 25-30% of max dmg on proteus and gelebron, how to test? Watch for shadowstrike and pounce crits, divide your highest one in a number of raids by two, then divide that by your max stated damage. Fire/ice/magic on raids? 15-25% of max damage depending on strength of the lure and the boss in question. That means poison is still overall the least resisted on raids (not necro duh) and is easily the strongest on all unlured reg mobs whether in tower or not. Just because your ss hits 3k on tower mobs instead of 4k doesnt make poison dmg or dex builds bad.
Theres also some even stupider misconception that magic damage is the strongest in tower, and its not. Theres never been any maths to back it up, it was a rumor based on guesses about tower resists that they latched onto once they saw rogue dg set was magic damage
Saying this as a rogue who has tested many different builds/items/gear setups, has debates/theorycrafting on dps related crap with other rogues/rangers/mages across multiple servers on a weekly basis, owner of stargem setup, runic setup, skain poison set, and former owner of skain storm and skain/gara blade charms (sold/gave away after a bunch of testing showed they werent as good as what i already had)
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Re: Question for full Doch G rogues
#15I tested damage on gele and proteus. Lured the damage was poison > fire = magic > ice
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#16Can someone explain how Edl dagger beats a void Gele dagger..?
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#17Faster, similar attack stats, and the divine proc.Can someone explain how Edl dagger beats a void Gele dagger..?
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Re: Question for full Doch G rogues
#18Divine proc usually hits 2-3k on raids, wouldnt 8k magic skill do nearly as much?
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#19It does like 800-1.2k lured, but takes 2-3 seconds for the animation to hit, cancelling 2-3 700-1k autos, meaning it loses dps no matter what and is a usekess skillDivine proc usually hits 2-3k on raids, wouldnt 8k magic skill do nearly as much?
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#20Well summed-up toothpick. I like that. OFC, you would swap skill rings, skill cd bracers and/or mord skill bracers as DPS as well for a high damage boost. I would put ingenuity into permanent slot so that when you swap you don't lose the damage from it.