Toothpicks Endgame Rogue Build Guide *2020 Edition*
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:32 am
Hi
I can’t really play hardcore like I used to, so I figure may as well give an end all be all guide to maybe make dps interesting again for people that are either bored of having no competition within their lock groups, or for people that want to be the best dps in clan, server, and/or the whole game.
DISCLAIMER:
This is for people willing to pay 100% full attention to one toon (dual log can ruin you if you’re not very good at it) and is extremely click intensive.
If you think this stuff isn’t as good as what you already do, or you think you are using some ultra setup that's actually better than this, you’re wrong. But that's okay. It just means you can progress, improve as a player. It means you still have stuff you can do other than camp all day.
There are going to be things in here that can help even casual players improve their clans raid knowledge.
Surface/Permanent Gear: Surface gear is what I call gear that you have on basically at all times.
ARMOR: Full Doch Gul and a Bloodthorn Helm. Str > Dex.
WEAPON: Creidhne's Dagger of Ashes > Earth > Winter > Voidsworn Dagger of AAshes > Earth > Winter > Shadowsworn Dagger of Ashes > Earth > Winter > Void Gelebron Blade > Darksworn Dagger > Shadow Gelebron Blade > Edl Dagger
The new Dino Daggers are exceptional and fix the nagging bug/mechanic that plagues Gelebron Blades. While the Gelebron skill is decent and situationally usable at bosses with low elemental resists, it stops your auto attacks while the skills animation goes off, making it lose dps in most other situations. The new Daggers skills are truly instant cast, which makes them gain dps in every situation!
NECKLACE: Ankou's Necklace of Assassins > Godly Necklace of Assassins> Ankou's Necklace of Brawlers > Imperial Necklace of Assassins > Godly Necklace of Brawlers > Royal Necklace of Assassins > Imperial Necklace of Brawlers > Runic Valor > Majestic Necklace of Assassins > Royal Brawlers > Majestic Brawlers
The new Dino amulets are also best in slot here, with the dagger ability ones slightly beating out the h2h ability ones because of the attack/damage boost from the dagger ability and the direct damage to Quickstrike.
CHARM/MISCELLANEOUS: Godly Bloodleaf Charm of Ferocity > Imperial > Royal > Sunfire charms
BRACELETS: Illusions of the Apostate > Knowledge of the Apostate > Godly Ingenuity >Guilt of the Banished** > Imperial Ingenuity > Royal Ingenuity > Hellforged > Godly Proteus Dex Str Atk > Majestic Ingenuity > Imperial Proteus Dex Str Atk
Apostates are the new best bracelets in the game at the moment, coming in at a clean 300 damage along with 200 beneficial stats (100 if you get Knowledge instead of Illusions). They are also the only camp-able braces in the game, as they spawn off of an extremely rare (Used to be 1/5k, now potentially 1/10k) mob spawn in Alchemical Quarters. The only downside is no attack bonuses on them, but with all the gear available nowadays you can make up for it in other slots.
**with all 3 lures, Banished braces are the best braces in the game at Dl/Edl, Necro, Proteus, Gelebron
RINGS: Godly Bloodthorn Band of Ferocity > Godly Bloodthorn Band of Subtlety > Godly Divine Ring** > Imperial Bloodthorn Band of Ferocity > Imperial Bloodthorn Band of Subtlety > Royal Bloodthorn Band of Ferocity > Royal Bloodthorn Band of Subtlety > Godly Necral Ring of Blood
**Godly Divine rings are worse if you can equip 4 imperial or better BT rings.
PET: Bloodthorn/Dhiothu: Magic Dragon > Fire Dragon/Ice Dragon > Imp > Psn Dragon
Everything else: Imp > Dragon
BATTLEMOUNT: Bloodthorn/Dhiothu: Elk > Hellsteed > Wolf > Horse > Bear > Tiger
Everywhere else: Wolf > Hellsteed > Elk > Horse > Tiger > Bear
BUILD:
In Doch Gul with all godly surface gear, you want 6k hp minimum for Gelebron in full DG, it’s enough to live the first 2 aoes if you resto spam unless he gets a high roll/you are runed. Every third aoe Gelebron does is a just a lame 1k chaos aoe unless you're runed, so use that time to resto spam yourself up to full so you can live the next AOE.
For the rest of your points in DG set, go full str, or at least 75% str 25%dex. If you dont have full dg, dont go full str. Shadowstrike is the strongest Rogue dps skill on Gelebron, and if you do not have dg your attack is likely pretty low, so 0 dex means lower accuracy. The less high tier gear/dg you have, the more dex you need.
SKILLS:
In order of most dps gained as of right now, it goes
1. Quickstrike - you cast it a ton and it doesn’t mess with any auto attacks
2. Rend** - Unlapped, rend is number 2 at the moment. If you know a lot of ppl use 50 rend, don’t bother unless its your 6th skill. When Otm fixed Server Lag across servers, rend changed from 3 ticks to 8, making it usable in endgame builds. I don’t know if the change to it was intended or not, if it wasn’t, I hope they leave it because otherwise rend sucks.
3 Double Attack - the most consistent skill, it takes 1.5 seconds to cast and never misses with a 15s cooldown, guarantees a gain of 60% of one auto attack every cast (One auto hasted is 1.1s)
4. Sneaky Attack - The highest dps gain per single cast, but with such a slow recast time it is just decent dps overall
5. Shadowstrike - Feast or Famine skill, if it hits youre golden, if it doesn’t youre screwed. Number 1 on Gelebron, Hrung, and in Carrow
6. Poison Weapon - Extremely consistent skill if you stay alive, the more attack you have the stronger it is. Number 2 on Hrung and in Carrow.
7. Assassinate - does like 100-200 more damage than sneaky, you can only use it 1-3 times a boss, and it misses. It sucks ass. To put it into perspective, 3 hit lvl 50 assassinates with swapped mord assassinate brace will lose 1 and a half autos, so about 1200 damage on any given boss in exchange for an average of 3-3.5k damage, net gain of 1800-2300 in each cast, so 5400-6900 damage. Quickstrike does the entirety of Assassinates maximum dps output in 5 casts. And you cast it 90 times.
** Rend is below Shadowstrike if there are people contesting it.
SWAPS:
Swapping gear brings your dps output to another level, it’s one of the things that separates the good players from the best players.
A godly Gele Sneaky ring adds 2700 bonus damage to Sneaky attack, thats equal to about 1200 Str worth of damage. On top of the untouchable direct damage, they also give you skillpoints. Now you might be thinking “The skills I use are already 45/45 or 50/50”. That may be true, but with swaps you can add an entire extra level 50 skill for free (Or even 2 if youre swappy enough, though the time it takes up to swap the extra swaps needed for Assassinate 7th skill over the 12 minutes or so before it is able to be cast usually loses more dps than Ass gains.) That means you add an entire skills worth of dps to your total dps output. Which can be an absolutely massive gain. A non full dg player that 6 skill swaps can beat a full dg player that does not.
Basically just lower the skillpoints added in each skill so that you only hit 50 points in it if you swap. It makes casual playing harder but you get used to it. Enough swaps and youll be able to swap another lvl 50 skill for free. This means you need lots of hotbar slots to optimise it. Watch my Killing Mord With a Cruel Knife Youtube video to get a glimpse of what it was like for me in early stages of learning. You need to swap the stuff on, use the skill, swap back to surface gear, and repeat for every skill you have swaps for until the boss is dead.
Cooldown Swapping (CD Swap): There are 2 methods commonly used to CD Swap, the Regular CD Swap which you do by swapping on your cooldown item I.e. Royal Band of Sneaky Attack, then an item for a different slot (a ring/charm/weapon/pet/mount/anything) to trigger the cooldown effect, casting the skill, then swapping your brace back to normal and finally your other item back to normal. If you have a 20% cooldown you do this when your skill is 75-80% cooled, if you have 40% you do it at 55-60%. The other way to create the same effect is to Double tap your cooldown item, if you do it correctly it will have the same effect without having to swap another slot. The second method is a lot harder to do consistently and the timing changes based on your device/connection.
Swap Gear:
Quickstrike: Bloodthorn CD Ring + Mord QS Brace > Dhiothu CD Brace + Gelebron QS Ring.
Dino Braces are much easier to obtain at higher cooldown percentages, so they are most common.
Shadowstrike: Dhiothu Ss Brace + Bloodthorn Charm of Subtlety+**Ring of Subtlety
**Many players will not be able to get a Subtlety ring just for swaps, so just having a Subtlety ring in first slot is a fine alternative.
Rend: Dhiothu Brace > Rend Ring
Brace adds direct damage and cunning which increases rends initial damage and further increases tick damage
Poison Weapon: Dhiothu Cunning ammy + Bloodthorn Charm of Subtlety * Necro Cunning Ring + Aggy Dex Pw Brace (Unless you have an Ingenuity in your second slot, then you can just add a Gelebron Dex Cunning brace to get more damage)
Double Attack: Bloodthorn Cd Ring + (Apostate>Banished>Ingenuity>Hrung dmg brace) > Necro Cd Brace + Damage Ring
Sneaky Attack: Dhiothu Cd Brace + (Bloodthorn Sneaky Ring > Gelebron Sneaky Ring) > Bloodthron Cd Ring + Event Str Sneaky Dmg Brace
Assassinate: Just put whatever on the skill sucks anyways
Well, now you know some of what it takes to maximize your DPS on bosses, good luck.
I can’t really play hardcore like I used to, so I figure may as well give an end all be all guide to maybe make dps interesting again for people that are either bored of having no competition within their lock groups, or for people that want to be the best dps in clan, server, and/or the whole game.
DISCLAIMER:
This is for people willing to pay 100% full attention to one toon (dual log can ruin you if you’re not very good at it) and is extremely click intensive.
If you think this stuff isn’t as good as what you already do, or you think you are using some ultra setup that's actually better than this, you’re wrong. But that's okay. It just means you can progress, improve as a player. It means you still have stuff you can do other than camp all day.
There are going to be things in here that can help even casual players improve their clans raid knowledge.
Surface/Permanent Gear: Surface gear is what I call gear that you have on basically at all times.
ARMOR: Full Doch Gul and a Bloodthorn Helm. Str > Dex.
WEAPON: Creidhne's Dagger of Ashes > Earth > Winter > Voidsworn Dagger of AAshes > Earth > Winter > Shadowsworn Dagger of Ashes > Earth > Winter > Void Gelebron Blade > Darksworn Dagger > Shadow Gelebron Blade > Edl Dagger
The new Dino Daggers are exceptional and fix the nagging bug/mechanic that plagues Gelebron Blades. While the Gelebron skill is decent and situationally usable at bosses with low elemental resists, it stops your auto attacks while the skills animation goes off, making it lose dps in most other situations. The new Daggers skills are truly instant cast, which makes them gain dps in every situation!
NECKLACE: Ankou's Necklace of Assassins > Godly Necklace of Assassins> Ankou's Necklace of Brawlers > Imperial Necklace of Assassins > Godly Necklace of Brawlers > Royal Necklace of Assassins > Imperial Necklace of Brawlers > Runic Valor > Majestic Necklace of Assassins > Royal Brawlers > Majestic Brawlers
The new Dino amulets are also best in slot here, with the dagger ability ones slightly beating out the h2h ability ones because of the attack/damage boost from the dagger ability and the direct damage to Quickstrike.
CHARM/MISCELLANEOUS: Godly Bloodleaf Charm of Ferocity > Imperial > Royal > Sunfire charms
BRACELETS: Illusions of the Apostate > Knowledge of the Apostate > Godly Ingenuity >Guilt of the Banished** > Imperial Ingenuity > Royal Ingenuity > Hellforged > Godly Proteus Dex Str Atk > Majestic Ingenuity > Imperial Proteus Dex Str Atk
Apostates are the new best bracelets in the game at the moment, coming in at a clean 300 damage along with 200 beneficial stats (100 if you get Knowledge instead of Illusions). They are also the only camp-able braces in the game, as they spawn off of an extremely rare (Used to be 1/5k, now potentially 1/10k) mob spawn in Alchemical Quarters. The only downside is no attack bonuses on them, but with all the gear available nowadays you can make up for it in other slots.
**with all 3 lures, Banished braces are the best braces in the game at Dl/Edl, Necro, Proteus, Gelebron
RINGS: Godly Bloodthorn Band of Ferocity > Godly Bloodthorn Band of Subtlety > Godly Divine Ring** > Imperial Bloodthorn Band of Ferocity > Imperial Bloodthorn Band of Subtlety > Royal Bloodthorn Band of Ferocity > Royal Bloodthorn Band of Subtlety > Godly Necral Ring of Blood
**Godly Divine rings are worse if you can equip 4 imperial or better BT rings.
PET: Bloodthorn/Dhiothu: Magic Dragon > Fire Dragon/Ice Dragon > Imp > Psn Dragon
Everything else: Imp > Dragon
BATTLEMOUNT: Bloodthorn/Dhiothu: Elk > Hellsteed > Wolf > Horse > Bear > Tiger
Everywhere else: Wolf > Hellsteed > Elk > Horse > Tiger > Bear
BUILD:
In Doch Gul with all godly surface gear, you want 6k hp minimum for Gelebron in full DG, it’s enough to live the first 2 aoes if you resto spam unless he gets a high roll/you are runed. Every third aoe Gelebron does is a just a lame 1k chaos aoe unless you're runed, so use that time to resto spam yourself up to full so you can live the next AOE.
For the rest of your points in DG set, go full str, or at least 75% str 25%dex. If you dont have full dg, dont go full str. Shadowstrike is the strongest Rogue dps skill on Gelebron, and if you do not have dg your attack is likely pretty low, so 0 dex means lower accuracy. The less high tier gear/dg you have, the more dex you need.
SKILLS:
In order of most dps gained as of right now, it goes
1. Quickstrike - you cast it a ton and it doesn’t mess with any auto attacks
2. Rend** - Unlapped, rend is number 2 at the moment. If you know a lot of ppl use 50 rend, don’t bother unless its your 6th skill. When Otm fixed Server Lag across servers, rend changed from 3 ticks to 8, making it usable in endgame builds. I don’t know if the change to it was intended or not, if it wasn’t, I hope they leave it because otherwise rend sucks.
3 Double Attack - the most consistent skill, it takes 1.5 seconds to cast and never misses with a 15s cooldown, guarantees a gain of 60% of one auto attack every cast (One auto hasted is 1.1s)
4. Sneaky Attack - The highest dps gain per single cast, but with such a slow recast time it is just decent dps overall
5. Shadowstrike - Feast or Famine skill, if it hits youre golden, if it doesn’t youre screwed. Number 1 on Gelebron, Hrung, and in Carrow
6. Poison Weapon - Extremely consistent skill if you stay alive, the more attack you have the stronger it is. Number 2 on Hrung and in Carrow.
7. Assassinate - does like 100-200 more damage than sneaky, you can only use it 1-3 times a boss, and it misses. It sucks ass. To put it into perspective, 3 hit lvl 50 assassinates with swapped mord assassinate brace will lose 1 and a half autos, so about 1200 damage on any given boss in exchange for an average of 3-3.5k damage, net gain of 1800-2300 in each cast, so 5400-6900 damage. Quickstrike does the entirety of Assassinates maximum dps output in 5 casts. And you cast it 90 times.
** Rend is below Shadowstrike if there are people contesting it.
SWAPS:
Swapping gear brings your dps output to another level, it’s one of the things that separates the good players from the best players.
A godly Gele Sneaky ring adds 2700 bonus damage to Sneaky attack, thats equal to about 1200 Str worth of damage. On top of the untouchable direct damage, they also give you skillpoints. Now you might be thinking “The skills I use are already 45/45 or 50/50”. That may be true, but with swaps you can add an entire extra level 50 skill for free (Or even 2 if youre swappy enough, though the time it takes up to swap the extra swaps needed for Assassinate 7th skill over the 12 minutes or so before it is able to be cast usually loses more dps than Ass gains.) That means you add an entire skills worth of dps to your total dps output. Which can be an absolutely massive gain. A non full dg player that 6 skill swaps can beat a full dg player that does not.
Basically just lower the skillpoints added in each skill so that you only hit 50 points in it if you swap. It makes casual playing harder but you get used to it. Enough swaps and youll be able to swap another lvl 50 skill for free. This means you need lots of hotbar slots to optimise it. Watch my Killing Mord With a Cruel Knife Youtube video to get a glimpse of what it was like for me in early stages of learning. You need to swap the stuff on, use the skill, swap back to surface gear, and repeat for every skill you have swaps for until the boss is dead.
Cooldown Swapping (CD Swap): There are 2 methods commonly used to CD Swap, the Regular CD Swap which you do by swapping on your cooldown item I.e. Royal Band of Sneaky Attack, then an item for a different slot (a ring/charm/weapon/pet/mount/anything) to trigger the cooldown effect, casting the skill, then swapping your brace back to normal and finally your other item back to normal. If you have a 20% cooldown you do this when your skill is 75-80% cooled, if you have 40% you do it at 55-60%. The other way to create the same effect is to Double tap your cooldown item, if you do it correctly it will have the same effect without having to swap another slot. The second method is a lot harder to do consistently and the timing changes based on your device/connection.
Swap Gear:
Quickstrike: Bloodthorn CD Ring + Mord QS Brace > Dhiothu CD Brace + Gelebron QS Ring.
Dino Braces are much easier to obtain at higher cooldown percentages, so they are most common.
Shadowstrike: Dhiothu Ss Brace + Bloodthorn Charm of Subtlety+**Ring of Subtlety
**Many players will not be able to get a Subtlety ring just for swaps, so just having a Subtlety ring in first slot is a fine alternative.
Rend: Dhiothu Brace > Rend Ring
Brace adds direct damage and cunning which increases rends initial damage and further increases tick damage
Poison Weapon: Dhiothu Cunning ammy + Bloodthorn Charm of Subtlety * Necro Cunning Ring + Aggy Dex Pw Brace (Unless you have an Ingenuity in your second slot, then you can just add a Gelebron Dex Cunning brace to get more damage)
Double Attack: Bloodthorn Cd Ring + (Apostate>Banished>Ingenuity>Hrung dmg brace) > Necro Cd Brace + Damage Ring
Sneaky Attack: Dhiothu Cd Brace + (Bloodthorn Sneaky Ring > Gelebron Sneaky Ring) > Bloodthron Cd Ring + Event Str Sneaky Dmg Brace
Assassinate: Just put whatever on the skill sucks anyways
Well, now you know some of what it takes to maximize your DPS on bosses, good luck.