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but at the same time warriors can be very good dps like rouges who use duel weapons i hit more than a rouge with two quartz daggers does im a duel warrior i tank and dps

but at the same time warriors can be very good dps like rouges who use duel weapons i hit more than a rouge with two quartz daggers does im a duel warrior i tank and dps

Prob u hit a bit higher per hit, but rogues hit faster i dont know what weapon are you using but if u compare quartz to quartz 3600 speed warrior. 2300 rogue....

What are you talking about fromen? Warriors and every other class can have almost the same dps due to the fact that str and offhands are available to all classes. The only thing that makes one class slightly better than another, is the available weapons for that class and available dps skills. There is nothing wrong with the weapona for warrior so that leaves only one thing that we all have a problem with, warrior dps skills. We already said in previous posts that the main problem is the huge damage fluctuation with these skills like giant swing and pummel, and frenzy needing to be tweaked to make it more useful - maybe increase the duration. The fluctuation is so bad, at times its best to just auto attack and not use skills. When skills become that useless you know something is wrong. But your point is not valid that warriors cant be as good dps as other classes because they can and they are. The armor vs dmg business must be looked at and tweaked so that armor does not plateau as rapidly. All problems solved.

Summary:
Damage fluctuation in skills needs to be reduced or removed
Armor should not plateau as quickly as it does at high values

What are you talking about fromen? Warriors and every other class can have almost the same dps due to the fact that str and offhands are available to all classes. The only thing that makes one class slightly better than another, is the available weapons for that class and available dps skills. There is nothing wrong with the weapona for warrior so that leaves only one thing that we all have a problem with, warrior dps skills. We already said in previous posts that the main problem is the huge damage fluctuation with these skills like giant swing and pummel, and frenzy needing to be tweaked to make it more useful - maybe increase the duration. The fluctuation is so bad, at times its best to just auto attack and not use skills. When skills become that useless you know something is wrong. But your point is not valid that warriors cant be as good dps as other classes because they can and they are. The armor vs dmg business must be looked at and tweaked so that armor does not plateau as rapidly. All problems solved.

Summary:
Damage fluctuation in skills needs to be reduced or removed
Armor should not plateau as quickly as it does at high values

This game is design on speed ..... You can build a mediocre dps warriors with store items avalaible gear , you can make a. Regular dps warrior with ES armor and daamge ring, but all this will come from the armor soma faster weapon will make you a good dps. No as good of rogue ,

Armor should be better and be a fact on speed of attack meaning if u choose to put 1600 armor u should be slow a snail but take relative not damage .

But if u choose to be another build you should be faster .

Do a test run almost same speed weapon same build 2 diferent classes and you will see something there ... Then come and said they are all same .

holy crap fromen, you're almost as bad as tony_lam...

You expect too much of your one class! Sure enough every class can vary in their role, but they have limitations on being the best at something. You don't see support rangers out-dpsing everyone, you don't see rogues tanking lavalord, you don't see dps druids solo-healing for rockbelly, you don't see nuke mages tanking bosses, and you don't see tank warriors hitting as hard as rogues do. Matter of fact you don't see dps warriors tanking end-game bosses, but you want that to happen too. Why don't you just ask for warriors to have a one-hit kill move and a 100% damage reduction skill that lasts for 24 hours?

EVERYONE has to wean one way or another to get the best out of their character, you sometimes just have to make some sacrifices in order to excel at what you want to excel at. If you want faster attack speed use your goddamn fists. Not enough damage? Use a sword. Not fast enough? make a rogue and shut up.

holy crap fromen, you're almost as bad as tony_lam...

You expect too much of your one class! Sure enough every class can vary in their role, but they have limitations on being the best at something. You don't see support rangers out-dpsing everyone, you don't see rogues tanking lavalord, you don't see dps druids solo-healing for rockbelly, you don't see nuke mages tanking bosses, and you don't see tank warriors hitting as hard as rogues do. Matter of fact you don't see dps warriors tanking end-game bosses, but you want that to happen too. Why don't you just ask for warriors to have a one-hit kill move and a 100% damage reduction skill that lasts for 24 hours?

EVERYONE has to wean one way or another to get the best out of their character, you sometimes just have to make some sacrifices in order to excel at what you want to excel at. If you want faster attack speed use your goddamn fists. Not enough damage? Use a sword. Not fast enough? make a rogue and shut up.

I mean rangers can do all......
I never have see a support ranger........

For all the ppl here who support the idea of 1 class been easy ks from 3 other class in the game gratz.

No game should 1 player ks a group of 2 players in the same lvl range , 2 warrior can be easy ks by rogue/ranger. If all you accept this good for you . I dont like the idea of target lock. But is the only solution to balance all classes. And still you guys dont like it ....

I would just like to add that entangle reduces incoming dps. Each class has its own defensive skill...
-warriors have protective stance
-rangers have entangle
-rogues have fast reflexes
-druids have... Well... Wards and bark
-mage have energy shield

Just brought this up for a different perspective. Think of it all however you would like.

I would just like to add that entangle reduces incoming dps. Each class has its own defensive skill...
-warriors have protective stance
-rangers have entangle
-rogues have fast reflexes
-druids have... Well... Wards and bark
-mage have energy shield

Just brought this up for a different perspective. Think of it all however you would like.

Warriors have enduring guard, too.

I would just like to add that entangle reduces incoming dps. Each class has its own defensive skill...
-warriors have protective stance
-rangers have entangle
-rogues have fast reflexes
-druids have... Well... Wards and bark
-mage have energy shield

Just brought this up for a different perspective. Think of it all however you would like.

Warriors have enduring guard, too.

Rangers also have bolas. Shall I continue or do you get the point?
I didn't say warriors are underpowered. I just thought I'd remind you all on some facts. My opinion is nowhere on this thread

and druids have wind

But you're right in throwing that in there, i assume to show that each class has their own method of dealing with different situations. You could do the same for any situation (offence, defence etc) and the outcome will be the same. Every class have their own unique solutions to problems and that is what makes them different. Sure, some classes are better than others in certain areas because how boring would a game be if every class was a tank? We are given choices so that we can determine how we like to play. Not happy with tanking? Try a rogue. Unimpressed with being vulnerable? Try a ranger.