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Re: Thoughts on Which Type of Weapon?

#13
So it seems like most people went with the two extremes in highest damage (spear) and highest speed (sword). A lot of you didnt actually read my entire post and for some reason lectured me about training abilities and others chose because of their current abilities. Read the entire post and dont worry about abilities.

Frozen brought about a great post with pierce lure and mages. They will have that one maxed over crush and slash because both rogues and rangers use pierce, so killing three cantaloupes with one rocket is better than using two nukes.

Using blaze's ingenious math, axe comes out 24.2 umm that sucks.

Do you guys believe in attack and defense will make a difference with speed and damage?
DarrenSharper
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Re: Thoughts on Which Type of Weapon?

#14
Well the weapons have always been shifting in dps positions for each tier. For example, axes are better within the ancient tier. Hammers are better in the diamond tier etc. the only thing that is constant is relative speed and damage. Dps will always shift between these weapons.

Defense is very underrated. Likewise attack is looked over by many mock dps builds that warriors create. The only reason some rogues don't put dex in their builds are for a few reasons such as their skills and naturally high attack from gear. So yes, I think attack and defence will help with incoming and outgoing dps. I think that's how to answer your question (not clear to me)... Lol
SirBlaze333 - 220+ Warrior
(Returning Player)

Re: Thoughts on Which Type of Weapon?

#15
They complety didnt read the original post

For me seems the all new warden/dragon weapon will have the the same bonusses ( health) only diference will be the damage/speed

The issue is if you read all thread ppl talk about cold numbers with taking in considerarion all variation on recistance level of the mob , and all other factors .

I love axes they used to be so good for dps and damage over all ( ancient,wk) but in 2 hand ,the spear always has been the more damage as single hand weapon in the game.

The sword will be the standard weapon not doubt about it bit after that will be personal likes and looks of a type of weapon been a high lvl player at the times when 2 hand weapon rule the game I used to to love the visuals of 2 hand axe and the damage coming from it , and how 2 hand hammers and mauls looks overall, i like the spear shield combo make look more as tank a warrior when you choose to be a tank ,

The game as lost their individualism , used to be hammer warriors, sword warriors , axe warriors, and rarely spears warriors so when u saw a char at distance you knew who he was for the weapons he carries now all are clones running with a blade and sword .
But if you see the concepts of dragon amor the shield with spear will not look bad.
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Re: Thoughts on Which Type of Weapon?

#16
About attack and defence looks strange

But for what i have seen and test it. The minimun for a weapon to be effective at high lvls is 1000 attack ( for daggers equip in a warrior ). And if yoir attack is around 1.5k for x weapon thats 100 damage from attack.

Defence sadly because dexterity is not tie to any skills a to have a high defence base on dexterity u need 250+ poins on dex or to get some defence rings/gear,

i will like to see on warriors a skill like high reflex the vades instead of blocking because all skills are for bloking not really evading.

The issue is defence is better then armor as the game is atm , a high defence build will evade alot more meaning less heals and better tanking over all so ik will sound strange but es pants will do a better job then frozen warrior pants .
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Re: Thoughts on Which Type of Weapon?

#17
Not really concerned about defense just put it down because it comes with attack. What I really meant was:
Is it better to have a fast but smaller damage weapon with more attack or a slower but higher damage weapon; with more attack?
Does it seem to make a difference at all? Or is their a rough line where you need more attack to be effective with one or the other? Would someone rather hit 3/4 with a sword or 4/5 with a spear? That's just an example but it really comes down to complex mathematics.
DarrenSharper
Blaze It - weedwizard (420)

Re: Thoughts on Which Type of Weapon?

#18
Weapon speed can always be tweaked to create the same dps between weapons of different damage. For example, if we have a sword of 50 damage that takes 5 seconds to swing, it will have the same dps as a hammer with 100 damage but requires 10 seconds to swing.

50/5=10
100/10=10

The catch is that heavier hitting weapons actually prevent your dps from rising due to the fact that they will generally hit slower, thus making your damage from gear hit less often. If we take a look at this again when you wear gear for a total of 20 more damage but with the same weapons, we see that the sword will have more dps...

70/5=14
120/10=12

What if your gear provided more damage than your weapon? Say, 60ish? This is why some rogues and rangers go with h2h.

110/5= 22
160/10=16

The gap gets larger and larger. Lets not forget that offhands count as gear.
SirBlaze333 - 220+ Warrior
(Returning Player)

Re: Thoughts on Which Type of Weapon?

#19
Great point! So therefore swords can only become more popular with the added damage from equipment. So what needs to happen? I recently received an agitator's bracelet of axes. Awesome except for the axe part. I used to have a gladiator's bracelet of swords that was perfect but I gave to a friend when I left for a little bit.
250 axe, sword whatever it may be, is a lot. 25 levels worth of attack, 125 points in dexterity, or a royal and grand ring combined in that weapon.
I dont use axe because frozen sword is the best, but if frozen axe, spear, club were eventually made dont you think they should first make each equal for damage/speed ratio, and then secondly balance it for the damage that equipment adds to speed........ Or they could change all the aggy bracelets to sword ability because if they dont fix the weapons, there's no point in using it and you lose that part.
DarrenSharper
Blaze It - weedwizard (420)

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