Celtic Heroes

It really does depend on what boss and what build a player has and what suits them best like U've said as well

Ur saying that the dagger is superior than the axe. I'd disagree. Ch varies a lot in terms of what's best where and what build ur running. The dagger off isn't great in terms of necro or better at necro compared to the axe offhand. If ur using a high attack build and reaper then the 400 attk can add almost 5-600 depending on total attack. 400 heat damage even with necro resists, when you add mage lures the melee is about 2-300. As well as the dmg u get from the 200 str is unresistable. So in my eyes I see 200 divine damage hits < 5-600 attk if proper build, 200 str and 400 heat damage that with 45-50 fire lures is still decently high. 200 str gives decent dmg as well and not to mention shatter frenzy etc boosts

The 400 dmg lured is around 16.67% of the total dmg. Unlured I wouldnt say its even 10%, so its 66.67 dmg, 67 dmg to hits. The str isnt unresistable, the str is transformed into physical dmg, being even more resisted, thus it is also resisted.

Dont get me wrong, I believe that on necro the axe is superior to dagger, but other than necro it isnt, and Im not a person who has 850k to spare for a single boss in game.

Id love to have the full Doch Gul set definitely, as Id have over 5k dmg (my estimation is that I'll have 5.3k dmg with my void str spear) as well as a large increase in attack and hp. With an axe its even better.

The chances for me to get Doch Gul are very little so by no means I rely on that, I never had, Ive always tried to maximize dps with minimal gear tier, Ive had even 3.5k+ dmg with dark str spear and got skain kills and smolach kills and all EDL kills since then.

If u have lots of money to spare, sure, use the axe on necro, but other than that u wont use it (unless its heat and u would use it for 195 but it would be extremely weak on 205-210 or have ice but it'll be weak on 215, heat too weak on 215 compared to dagger), I would use the dagger for EDLS as still poison is 50%-100% unresisted on most (Idk who resists poison the most, but I know that 215 resists it the least as well as low physical resist), while it seems to be effective on Gelebron too (and prob on proteus, elemental seems to weak on him).

Overall :

Hrung - weak to elemental and strong to physical, but doesnt resist poison and dagger's total dmg is higher than axe. Conclusion : Dagger > Axe.
Mordy - strong to elemental, uncertain on physical but for the case we'll say shes strong to physical too, doesnt resist poison. Conclusion : Dagger > Axe.
Necro : strong to elemental, strong to physical, resists poison completely (arguably whats better EDL shield or axe offhand). Conclusion : Axe > Dagger.
Proteus : strong to elemental, strong to physical (I believe, but sent mobs on tower have been rather weak to my physical dmg), medium on poison? Dagger has more dmg overall. Conclusion : Dagger > Axe.
Gelebron : I dont know his resists, but as it seems rogues and rangers get the kills. Conclusion : Dagger > Axe.

EDLS :

185, 190 I dont care.

195 - weak to heat, strong to ice, medium on physical and poison. Conclusion : Heat axe > Dagger > Cold/Magic axe.
200 - dont really know his resists, but mostly melee class kill. Conclusion : Dagger > Axe.
205 - weak to ice, strong to heat, medium on poison and physical. Conclusion : Cold Axe > Dagger > Heat/Magic axe.
210 - weak to ice I think, dont know his other resists, seems to be ice mage/rogue kill, so I'll call them even here.
215 - medium to elemental, lets claim weak to magic but weak to physical and poison, dagger has more dmg total. Conclusion : Dagger > Magic Axe > Cold/Heat axe.


Overall, dagger. Just so u know, Frenzy adds dmg based on percentage, that means, frenzy can add x% of ur total physical dmg (I calculated mine, I think it was 198% of my total physical dmg [230] at lvl 50 and 2030 str), Im not sure if attack is based that way too, but if attack is also x% of ur physical dmg then its even better.

You guys are going into too much detail for this game, do what you want use what you want. I simply asked for a suggestion of an offhand and I got my answer but if you don't agree with what I'm using or someone else is using then so be it. You use what you want and they will use what they want. So what if you got a kill on necro or mord yeah that's impressive but why are we fighting over it lol

frenzy can add x% of ur total physical damage

Just decided to share my thoughts about this (ik its kinda off topic but..).
Frenzy actually adds around 2% of your total physical damage per level, so at level 50 it adds around 100%, at level 30 adds 60%, etc..
Even checked, my lvl 25 frenzy adds 44 damage using a topaz spear. 40 since lvl 25 adds about 50% of your total physical damage, and topaz spear is 80 damage. Since my Melee Combat is maxed at 1030, and my str is 299, that added 4 damage. Almost nothing
That's how you roughly (very roughly if user has high str and melee combat) find out the damage boost from Frenzy.

Perhaps so, but I have 2030 str and dont remember how much Melee Combat, and Frenzy adds around 400 dmg for me.

Perhaps so, but I have 2030 str and dont remember how much Melee Combat, and Frenzy adds around 400 dmg for me.

go full foc for once taste the mana.. maan my warrior burns energy like hell ,
~Exe~

Full doch gul looks real fun eh? Sucks Warriors will
Basically never get it over other dps

As well as the dmg u get from the 200 str is unresistable.

Thats not unresisted...it increases your mainhand damage lol which would be pierc slash or crush. None of which are unresisted

frenzy can add x% of ur total physical damage

Just decided to share my thoughts about this (ik its kinda off topic but..).
Frenzy actually adds around 2% of your total physical damage per level, so at level 50 it adds around 100%, at level 30 adds 60%, etc..
Even checked, my lvl 25 frenzy adds 44 damage using a topaz spear. 40 since lvl 25 adds about 50% of your total physical damage, and topaz spear is 80 damage. Since my Melee Combat is maxed at 1030, and my str is 299, that added 4 damage. Almost nothing
That's how you roughly (very roughly if user has high str and melee combat) find out the damage boost from Frenzy.

Not quite how it works. My frenzy at level 50 added around 400 damage and that was with a 200 vendor spear and runic spite (235 total pierce if i remember correct)