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Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:30 pm
by PrinceOlympius
Hi everyone, I am a 195 warrior hoping to get to 200 soon. I have a build that I want to try out and I could use some info about the risk/rewards with this build

Curent Build:
Fiery Axe of Might
350 heat dmg
str 180
attack 300

Ring of Haste
30 str
100 hp

Brightstone Hunter
65 vit
65 str

Royal Shatter/rupture ring ( I alternate them)

180 Valour ring
str 75
attack 300
Hp 450

MY PLANNED BUILD
4 lvl 200 Valour rings
100 str
600 vit
400 attack

200 haste dagger
120 poison dmg
40 pierce
120 dex


POTENTIAL: gains
I would gain around 260 str, 260 vit and 700 attack (these numbers are not exact, only ballpark I think?)

My concerns:
does the axe dmg really matter enough that this new build will be a downgrade?
Should I just upgrade to a lvl 200 haste ring and buy lvl 200 axe?
What is better? Shatter 8 ring or a 200 runic ring?

I am a hybrid atm, I would love to have at least 10k hp with good dmg
(maybe even use occult too for leveling dps)

Thanks for reading!

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:18 pm
by Corrupt
Hi everyone, I am a 195 warrior hoping to get to 200 soon. I have a build that I want to try out and I could use some info about the risk/rewards with this build

Curent Build:
Fiery Axe of Might
350 heat dmg
str 180
attack 300

Ring of Haste
30 str
100 hp

Brightstone Hunter
65 vit
65 str

Royal Shatter/rupture ring ( I alternate them)

180 Valour ring
str 75
attack 300
Hp 450

MY PLANNED BUILD
4 lvl 200 Valour rings
100 str
600 vit
400 attack

200 haste dagger
120 poison dmg
40 pierce
120 dex


POTENTIAL: gains
I would gain around 260 str, 260 vit and 700 attack (these numbers are not exact, only ballpark I think?)

My concerns:
does the axe dmg really matter enough that this new build will be a downgrade?
Should I just upgrade to a lvl 200 haste ring and buy lvl 200 axe?
What is better? Shatter 8 ring or a 200 runic ring?

I am a hybrid atm, I would love to have at least 10k hp with good dmg
(maybe even use occult too for leveling dps)

Thanks for reading!
4 valours, valour braces and valour ammy. Haste dagger beats dmg axe all day

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:38 pm
by PrinceOlympius
But what if I'm only using 4 runic rings? Would that still be beneficial or do I need valor brace and neck as well?

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:56 pm
by Dark Kitty
But what if I'm only using 4 runic rings? Would that still be beneficial or do I need valor brace and neck as well?
If you want to go full dps then definitely get a runic pendant.

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:50 pm
by Wardon-CH
Well if your a hybrid then I assume you have points split between vit and strength. Depending on how much strength you have then the axe could be more beneficial. The dagger will work just fine though and would be what i recommend in my short experience as a dps warrior while lvling. Personally I would also suggest a full dps build rather than hybrid. Full dps will be a lot faster for lvling while hybrid is more beneficial for pvp. Hybrid will work fine for lvling also but for the sake of speed its slower than full dps.

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:09 pm
by PrinceOlympius
Well if your a hybrid then I assume you have points split between vit and strength. Depending on how much strength you have then the axe could be more beneficial. The dagger will work just fine though and would be what i recommend in my short experience as a dps warrior while lvling. Personally I would also suggest a full dps build rather than hybrid. Full dps will be a lot faster for lvling while hybrid is more beneficial for pvp. Hybrid will work fine for lvling also but for the sake of speed its slower than full dps.
Depending on the status of my upcoming gear, the chances of me switching to dps are very high. I have around 650 str/350 vit equalling to 7500k hp. If I do get the intended port brace and runic rings, I can put all my points to str without losing any hp at all. I rather solo at times due to the 1.5 bars guaranteed that I get, thats why I prefer a lot of vit.

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:55 pm
by Wardon-CH
Well if your a hybrid then I assume you have points split between vit and strength. Depending on how much strength you have then the axe could be more beneficial. The dagger will work just fine though and would be what i recommend in my short experience as a dps warrior while lvling. Personally I would also suggest a full dps build rather than hybrid. Full dps will be a lot faster for lvling while hybrid is more beneficial for pvp. Hybrid will work fine for lvling also but for the sake of speed its slower than full dps.
Depending on the status of my upcoming gear, the chances of me switching to dps are very high. I have around 650 str/350 vit equalling to 7500k hp. If I do get the intended port brace and runic rings, I can put all my points to str without losing any hp at all. I rather solo at times due to the 1.5 bars guaranteed that I get, thats why I prefer a lot of vit.
Should only need about 5k hp for tower, that's what I had whilst lvling. I spent a majority of my lvling with Heroic Combos though so I could sacrifice a little base hp for more damage.

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:07 am
by PrinceOlympius
Hero combos can compensate for a lot though, I only have access to regular combos so I do solo a lot so I need the extra hp, I could always use pots though but I'm efficient enough as is.

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:43 am
by alisa.maclucas
I leveled as DPS from about 180 to 220 then went tank. My build was full str with runics, whatever decent braces I could find, and eventually a stormleaf set (mixed). Used axe (and str hal) and haste dagger after 200. OH axe was not even considered because I mostly relied on autos and dps was dependent primarily on weapon speed. Just ran hp, energy, and haste lix. Had about 5k total hp, which was plenty.

That said, a lot of this depends on your play style. If you have the funds or friends try both and see what you like. If you go with something just because of stats you ignore the fun factor :)

Good luck and happy hunting!

Re: Using haste dagger over axe?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:15 pm
by PrinceOlympius
Thank you! and I'm glad you mentioned a more spear, because I was recently wondering if my mainland axe could be replaced with a mord spear. Yes I could hot swap it but I'm a classic player who hasn't really took the time to learn those XD. That being said, if the conditions are right, I really want to use a Mord spear.