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OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:48 pm
by Bourne
Okay this is in regards to the vial armor quest and I am going to go off of the quest description, not based off of how I know some others describe the floors.

Bridge level: Minor, Lesser, Common
Floor 1: Minor, Lesser, Common, Greater
Floor 2: Lesser, Common, Greater
Floor 3: Greater and Grand
Floor 4: Grand

Now call me crazy but this seems EXTREMELY backwards and has no logic whatsoever behind it... Technically the FIRST floor of the tower is the best for farming vials because it drops minors, lessers, commons, AND greaters. Now this would make some sense if the drop rate were increased each floor, but as far as I can tell the drop rate stays pretty constant, the only difference is on first floor you have a chance of getting 1/4 vials were as on floor 3 or 4 you have a chance of getting only 1/1 or 1/2 vials. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

Bridge: Minor
Floor 1: Minor and lesser
Floor 2: Minor, lesser, and common
Floor 3: Minor, lesser, common and greater
Floor 4: Minor, lesser, common, greater and Grand

Ya this makes grands more rare but isn't that how it's supposed to be anyways??? It's actually quite funny, right now on our server no body wants grands and some don't want greaters, people are trying to trade them for lower tier vials 1:1 and no body is taking them because the drop rate is so low as well. Overall the mechanics of the quest seem very flawed from where the vials drop to the drop rate of them. Could this be looked at, changed, or reconsidered or at the very least EXPLAINED because as of right now it makes absolutely no sense to me.

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:08 pm
by Zyz
If OTM would give us cross server mail, I'd trade you a bunch of minors and lessees right now for grands. On 2 lix alone today I had 5 lessees and 3 minors drop and this is fairly common

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:12 pm
by Cecil
+1 The way it is currently set up minor and lessor are the hardest to farm and are actually more rare and valuable then greater and grand. Grand actually seem to be the most common and eaisiest to get.

This may also be due to the fact that most my clannies are leveling on 4th and 5th floor. But there does seem to be much more opportunity for grand and greater as the op suggests.

Should be fixed and i like the drop system the op suggested

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:29 pm
by Criminal
IMO, just like in boggans, from green to black (or purple to whoever says they're purple), they should all be able to drop all vials. On the other hand, between each and each floor there should be increased drop rate of a specific one, with first (I consider bridge lvl as first floor) being highest on minors and last (or 5th if we consider the 6th floor that hasnt been released) on grand.

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:05 pm
by Aileron
Bridge: Minor
Armory: Lesser
Quarters: Common
Chambers: Greater
Halls: Grand

^ That's how it should've been so you know where to go for what you need.

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:07 pm
by Bourne
I've wondered the same thing Cecil but I've tried to farm some on other floors and have gotten about 5 or 6 vials after hours of farming, not real extensively but a decent bit. Plus it takes like twice as long to level on top floors so there's more killing and more vials being dropped

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:13 pm
by Aileron
In the US, the Ground Floor (or street level floor) is considered the 1st floor, so Forbidden Halls is actually 5th floor to me.

But in UK, the floor above the Ground Floor is the first floor, just like how it is laid out in the OP. What other countries use this terminology?

However, OTM says 6th Floor is coming, so to them, Bridge is also the 1st floor. Let's get our terms consistent.

Floor 1 = Bridge of Despair
Floor 2 = Infernal Armories
Floor 3 = Alchemical Quarters
Floor 4 = Summoning Chambers
Floor 5 = Forbidden Halls

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:18 pm
by Criminal
^Ah well I consider the bridge level first floor, but in here the ground floor is considered the entrance, and the floor above it is the first floor.

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:21 pm
by Bourne
In the US, the Ground Floor (or street level floor) is considered the 1st floor, so Forbidden Halls is actually 5th floor to me.

But in UK, the floor above the Ground Floor is the first floor, just like how it is laid out in the OP. What other countries use this terminology?

However, OTM says 6th Floor is coming, so to them, Bridge is also the 1st floor. Let's get our terms consistent.

Floor 1 = Bridge of Despair
Floor 2 = Infernal Armories
Floor 3 = Alchemical Quarters
Floor 4 = Summoning Chambers
Floor 5 = Forbidden Halls
Isn't OTM based in UK though? So they would say f5 is coming? Everyone on our server says bridge is F1 and current top floor is 5. Too me it makes more sense saying bridge and then floor 1 (Im from US) because you enter the tower at floor level (assumably) like most buildings and then you go up from the. The fact that you "enter" the tower from the OW but really only go to the outer bridge then to enter tower makes the concept of it confusing and splits people. Either way I didn't know the difference with US and UK so that's interesting, I just went off with what the quest said.

Re: OTM SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:24 pm
by Fingal
Austrailia