If you've tried this build (or similar), can you tell us your level and your actual inflicted damage? I've got a traditional mage build, and I can easily take on a 3s my level to 3 lvls higher.
To be honest, the idea of a melee build seems a little silly. I don't understand why DPS is so important. Personally, I would rate high damage and high survivability more important. The biggest problem I see in most of these builds:
a) Where they have gone for very low focus & high Vit, there's no way you are going to cast level 30-35+ spells with no focus.
b) In reality, you aren't always going to have a tank in your grp which can taunt, when you don't ur gonna get aggro if your dps is so high. At least before if you had no tank you most likely had bolas and ur range damge was useful
c) All the really tough bosses have area damage, with limited defence ur going to die real fast.
Anyway I'm keeping an open mind, can ppl post their lvl and damage? I want to see if this really works in OW.
=D
Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#42I''ve tested the basic design of this mage.
Even with the high vit, its still not enough.
YOU MUST HAVE ALL THE + DAMAGE GEAR OR THIS BUILD IS A FAILURE.
Also as a mage you require energy shield. With the ability to cast it twice during a fight is necessary.
I'll post my mage build in the mage forum later today.
That build at lvl 125 can take on 3 star golems starting from the tower leystone.
And is deadly in player vs player.
Even with the high vit, its still not enough.
YOU MUST HAVE ALL THE + DAMAGE GEAR OR THIS BUILD IS A FAILURE.
Also as a mage you require energy shield. With the ability to cast it twice during a fight is necessary.
I'll post my mage build in the mage forum later today.
That build at lvl 125 can take on 3 star golems starting from the tower leystone.
And is deadly in player vs player.
Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#43I don't have all the gear for it, but have some.
I will build a combo h2h dps, Freeze Shield Mage when I am done with my current AoE fire leveling spec.
I will build a combo h2h dps, Freeze Shield Mage when I am done with my current AoE fire leveling spec.

Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#44Interesting question for people that use this technique...
How often do you miss hits with H2H??
I figured, with no H2H ability.. Must miss a lot. Unless you can get H2H ability on all toons? Im not actually sure. I rock out a shoreline wand on my Mage.. Does good.
Also - if you have good enough attack.. The Cruel Knife?? To my understanding, that is faster than normal H2H. (may be wrong.)
How often do you miss hits with H2H??
I figured, with no H2H ability.. Must miss a lot. Unless you can get H2H ability on all toons? Im not actually sure. I rock out a shoreline wand on my Mage.. Does good.
Also - if you have good enough attack.. The Cruel Knife?? To my understanding, that is faster than normal H2H. (may be wrong.)
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Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#45Every class can get H2H. Trainer outside Arena doors.Unless you can get H2H ability on all toons?
Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#46Jtam,
I was rght where you were a couple days ago.
I now switched my build to what I was saying in a reply on the first or second page.
Right now I don't have the gear. I have a little gear and my listed damage is 105.
A couple days ago i could kill 3 star ghosts a few levels above me when I was lvl 121, now I can only kill a 1 star one my level (122).
However I am more happy than I was then already. No I can't solo yet, but I have 40 points for support lure, I have a maxed fire lure and cloak have 4.2k health ect. So I am just plain more usefull for groups. Also I will get a golden blade of fire soon so my listed damage should go to 300 and I hit every second. Also no waiting for eshield cooldown!! This alone has saved me so much frustration. I am much happier with my toon now and having much more fun
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So my listed damage is a combo of slash magic and fire and it hits for a little over half of the listed damage. I'm hopin with my blade of fire i can get 160 out of 200 consistenty with my maxed fire lure. So I should be hitting 200+ every second plus the cloak. Not bad. And there is still room to grow with a damage helm and earthstone.
I am actually using the sunflower lol. It is just a hair slower than shoreline (2200 vs 2150) but it adds 20 damage to my hits consistently. It seems like normal hand to hand is 2000.
And my hand to hand ability is at like 600 and it hits 1/2 to 3/4 of the time with no dex or attack.
All in all, even with the current drawbacks of this build since I'm not geared I think I'm here to stay
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I was rght where you were a couple days ago.
I now switched my build to what I was saying in a reply on the first or second page.
Right now I don't have the gear. I have a little gear and my listed damage is 105.
A couple days ago i could kill 3 star ghosts a few levels above me when I was lvl 121, now I can only kill a 1 star one my level (122).
However I am more happy than I was then already. No I can't solo yet, but I have 40 points for support lure, I have a maxed fire lure and cloak have 4.2k health ect. So I am just plain more usefull for groups. Also I will get a golden blade of fire soon so my listed damage should go to 300 and I hit every second. Also no waiting for eshield cooldown!! This alone has saved me so much frustration. I am much happier with my toon now and having much more fun

So my listed damage is a combo of slash magic and fire and it hits for a little over half of the listed damage. I'm hopin with my blade of fire i can get 160 out of 200 consistenty with my maxed fire lure. So I should be hitting 200+ every second plus the cloak. Not bad. And there is still room to grow with a damage helm and earthstone.
I am actually using the sunflower lol. It is just a hair slower than shoreline (2200 vs 2150) but it adds 20 damage to my hits consistently. It seems like normal hand to hand is 2000.
And my hand to hand ability is at like 600 and it hits 1/2 to 3/4 of the time with no dex or attack.
All in all, even with the current drawbacks of this build since I'm not geared I think I'm here to stay

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Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#47I can't see how AoE could be good at all but:I don't have all the gear for it, but have some.
I will build a combo h2h dps, Freeze Shield Mage when I am done with my current AoE fire leveling spec.
post all these builds, the AoE and the new hybrid and I will put on wiki


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Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#48I will post my firebolt support melee mage build seen in this thread on wiki, I think that one is a keeper, although I havent tested it yet.
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Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#49Marco, what I was getting at was a DPS build, and Im sure this class is amazing for training.
And lets be real every mage lvl 150 has some HP sigils, and with 10 vitality and full radiant + LUX you will still pull out around 1500 hp if you think about about.
And lets be real every mage lvl 150 has some HP sigils, and with 10 vitality and full radiant + LUX you will still pull out around 1500 hp if you think about about.
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Re: Exciting new build: elite melee mage!
#50I've recently just tried a similar build.
I am a level 132 mage.
I have never used a rebirth but I have definitely used over 60+ of book of alt ever since update adjusting my skills accordingly to the my levelling environment.
It worked perfect duo-ing with a druid(133)
Stats were : 5 5 490 185
Equipment:
Main
Golden Crown Energisation
Greater earthstone greaves + 40 heat damage
greater earthstone breasplate(borrowed) +80 heat
Heroic Boots
Heroic Gloves
Golden ICE blade + 200 cold damage ( borrowed as I found nobody with Golden Fire Blade)
Jewelery
Greater Earhstone blackthorn Necklace +40 heat +40 magic
Radiant Earthstone willow ring : +250 attack
Royal Lure of Fire +5 to skill stated
Royal Cloak of Fire +5 '' '' ''
Fabled Cloak of fire +3 '' '' ''
My skills are as follows: with 27 skill points left.
25 Firebolt ( Just used to speed kills up)
30 Cloak of Fire ( 38/30 with rings)
23 Lure of Fire ( 25/28 with ring)
30 E Shield (I just love this skill)
Notes:
Note: Fireball was optional, i was still able to kill the red ponies without. Energy shield is also optional as not many can use it consecutively.
I sometimes swap out my Cloak rings for Firebolt (+3 and +4) or for my energy(shield +3 and +4)
I have 300 energy sigls
Druid had abundance and a 1k heal.
With this build I was able to kill ponies without the dreadful(especially on lava) post-battle regen.
I could just kept autoing 150-250's along with my 290 firecloak damage(lured)
I trained my Hand 2 Hand ability after reading this guide and will train it to 1k+ as it helped alot with landing the punches.
Overall, This build is sigil-friendly ( with the exception of e shield) and a good way to duo train.
Like i said i havent tried with fire blade but i can see damage being higher.
Radiant Top and BP would make this build quite deadly.
I haven't tried PVP with it yet as I'm focused on finding a levelling rather than PVP build.
If I missed anything out or any questions regarding my test build drop me a reply and I'll try and answer ASAP.
on a personal note, Mages shouldn't be melee'ing to produce a decent dps rate!
I am a level 132 mage.
I have never used a rebirth but I have definitely used over 60+ of book of alt ever since update adjusting my skills accordingly to the my levelling environment.
It worked perfect duo-ing with a druid(133)
Stats were : 5 5 490 185
Equipment:
Main
Golden Crown Energisation
Greater earthstone greaves + 40 heat damage
greater earthstone breasplate(borrowed) +80 heat
Heroic Boots
Heroic Gloves
Golden ICE blade + 200 cold damage ( borrowed as I found nobody with Golden Fire Blade)
Jewelery
Greater Earhstone blackthorn Necklace +40 heat +40 magic
Radiant Earthstone willow ring : +250 attack
Royal Lure of Fire +5 to skill stated
Royal Cloak of Fire +5 '' '' ''
Fabled Cloak of fire +3 '' '' ''
My skills are as follows: with 27 skill points left.
25 Firebolt ( Just used to speed kills up)
30 Cloak of Fire ( 38/30 with rings)
23 Lure of Fire ( 25/28 with ring)
30 E Shield (I just love this skill)
Notes:
Note: Fireball was optional, i was still able to kill the red ponies without. Energy shield is also optional as not many can use it consecutively.
I sometimes swap out my Cloak rings for Firebolt (+3 and +4) or for my energy(shield +3 and +4)
I have 300 energy sigls
Druid had abundance and a 1k heal.
With this build I was able to kill ponies without the dreadful(especially on lava) post-battle regen.
I could just kept autoing 150-250's along with my 290 firecloak damage(lured)
I trained my Hand 2 Hand ability after reading this guide and will train it to 1k+ as it helped alot with landing the punches.
Overall, This build is sigil-friendly ( with the exception of e shield) and a good way to duo train.
Like i said i havent tried with fire blade but i can see damage being higher.
Radiant Top and BP would make this build quite deadly.
I haven't tried PVP with it yet as I'm focused on finding a levelling rather than PVP build.
If I missed anything out or any questions regarding my test build drop me a reply and I'll try and answer ASAP.
on a personal note, Mages shouldn't be melee'ing to produce a decent dps rate!
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