Celtic Heroes

Okay so you people out there are getting this Mage thing wrong. They aren't DPS. As a 150 rouge, if I was outhit by a mage id quit. They are a support class. Notice the lures and buffs that they can use. And yea it sucks to lvl them. They are not the easiest solo. Not without sigils or pots. Every Mage above 140+ spent plat. And probably quite a bit. Plus is games is an MMO. Massive Muilyiplayer Online. Mages have a different role in lvlin or fights. They are purely support with a little damage. Tanks take damage but don't dish it out. Rouges dish out damage but can't take it. Druids heal anyone who takes damage. And a ranger is half and half of a rouge and a Druid. So mages, I know it sucks but stop complaining. Lvl with other people and you will get up in lvls. If you can't find groups to lvl with then you have social issues because this is a social game. I know it's hard but sheesh its not impossible. I have a Mage myself. He's 102 right now. He didn't get there by solo. I leveled with lower lvl players or other alts.

Okay so you people out there are getting this Mage thing wrong. They aren't DPS. As a 150 rouge, if I was outhit by a mage id quit. They are a support class. Notice the lures and buffs that they can use. And yea it sucks to lvl them. They are not the easiest solo. Not without sigils or pots. Every Mage above 140+ spent plat. And probably quite a bit. Plus is games is an MMO. Massive Muilyiplayer Online. Mages have a different role in lvlin or fights. They are purely support with a little damage. Tanks take damage but don't dish it out. Rouges dish out damage but can't take it. Druids heal anyone who takes damage. And a ranger is half and half of a rouge and a Druid. So mages, I know it sucks but stop complaining. Lvl with other people and you will get up in lvls. If you can't find groups to lvl with then you have social issues because this is a social game. I know it's hard but sheesh its not impossible. I have a Mage myself. He's 102 right now. He didn't get there by solo. I leveled with lower lvl players or other alts.

Rogues are melee dps. Mages are caster dps. They're specialized in fire and ice damage. Lures are here just so that they have a role in groups.
Also, we're the only class forced to use skills to don't benefit us whatsoever.
Rogues are fast hitters, mages should have nukes. Because the way things are, we're the only class that's forced into a single role.
Warriors can (and mostly do) outdps us, whether they specialize in tanking or dps. And they can solo level because they have both high damage skills and melee
Rogues are dps but they can choose which skills to up. And they have better armor
Druids can be healers, support or dps. Basically they're best healers and supporters but can deal enough damage to solo level if they don't run out of energy. Which they do, just like mages.
Rangers are second best at everything, and they can do almost all of it at once.

Mages can do briefs damage bursts, but they run out of energy extremely quickly, and their lures are only useful in boss fights, which are less than 1% of all fights. Basically we're told in game we're going to deal enough damage to balance our squishy nature, only to be then forced to stand aside in more than half of a boss fight because we've run out of energy to cast skills. And even though they're supposed to be energy healers, neither sacrifice nor energy boost are any useful for anyone else than themselves or possibly druids.

Heck, for now we're most powerful in MELEE. That's not how a mage is supposed to work. We should have the choice of our build just like any other class. And above all, we should be able to at least compete with rogues in terms of overall damage, just not on the same mobs.

Okay so you people out there are getting this Mage thing wrong. They aren't DPS. As a 150 rouge, if I was outhit by a mage id quit. They are a support class. Notice the lures and buffs that they can use. And yea it sucks to lvl them. They are not the easiest solo. Not without sigils or pots. Every Mage above 140+ spent plat. And probably quite a bit. Plus is games is an MMO. Massive Muilyiplayer Online. Mages have a different role in lvlin or fights. They are purely support with a little damage. Tanks take damage but don't dish it out. Rouges dish out damage but can't take it. Druids heal anyone who takes damage. And a ranger is half and half of a rouge and a Druid. So mages, I know it sucks but stop complaining. Lvl with other people and you will get up in lvls. If you can't find groups to lvl with then you have social issues because this is a social game. I know it's hard but sheesh its not impossible. I have a Mage myself. He's 102 right now. He didn't get there by solo. I leveled with lower lvl players or other alts.

It be interesting if you are able to reference your claim that mage * are a support class, being purely support with a little damage.* If not, Yr claim is purely your own perception and down right hilarious. By defination, mage is a DPS caster that specializes in burst damage and area of effect spells. Their primary role in a group is damage dealing and crowd control. Lures Slash/Crush/Pierce were only introduced in latest update. Prior to that, none of has ever considered mages to possible of support. Admin has simply provided more built options of playing mage but their primarly role is still dealing raw damage.

Tanks take damage but dont dish it out. Are you sure with this? I have a warrior tank friend with close to 4k hp but he is still able to out dps my mage frd. Why? He has event gears that give 100 to 300 heat dmg, offhand sword that gives 200 ice dmg, haste gloves that gives 30% increased weapon speed, imperial charms that gives additonal 9 slash. Oh lets not forget melee classes damage are based on strength along with main weapon so frozen sword of 90 slash obviously contributes to overall damage for auto swing and skills.

We all know this game is very gear dependent and it would seem a huge portion of the current gears- lux (Haste gloves 30%, + 100/200 dmg), quest (Frozen weapon, magic/fire/ice resistance), drops (Godly charms) and event items (radiant greaves - 80 heat, Chest - 120 heat, amulet - 100 magic and heat) are again all favoured towards non casters.

it really seems CH is favouring the three fifths of the population and none to the caster population as per Kasha which really is very dissappointing. If it is indeed game engine change, please make it a priority as we all druids and mages are bleeding blood here.

I think that the main and chief difference shared between Casters (Spell DPS) and Skillers (Melee DPS) has to be considered in the Radiant gear. There right now are no gloves, BP, greaves that boost casting DMG. Neither spell cooldown reductions items, casting time reduction items, casting DMG increase % or additional DMG.

It's all tied to Melee.

The game chose an unbelievable cool new itemization and then made it once again. Entirely Melee based.

I personally Disagree with most mages about the role of the Mage. They are a Support/DPS hybrid. They have always been billed as such, and continue to be ignored by Mages who wish them to be much more...even after the company who designed them has made it clear their role and class dynamic. At a certain point you have to chalk it up, these people will never listen. Will always demand more and just don't read.

But Mages & Druids too, have legitimate beef with the itemization of the summer event, short of a few pieces of jewelry being almost 90% Melee based and now after it's been widely circulated, completely skewing the class balance beyond acceptable levels. In many ways we are back at update 2 after we traveled so far from there initially.

(edit: Sorry Morph we were typing the same kinda stuff..oh well)

Yeah about the whole I am spposed to be *support*, I am gonna have to call bs on that. I am a death dealing machine. You can convince yourself that others are to be support I am not I will be a self sufficient fire breathing ice slinging master of destruction. That's the way it is.

I remember old times when I could out dps all classes(including rogues) that were at or even a few levels above me.

It seems to me that if mages are 'support' then we were forced into it when the latest update included the new lures. I did not sign up for this.

I personally Disagree with most mages about the role of the Mage. They are a Support/DPS hybrid. They have always been billed as such, and continue to be ignored by Mages who wish them to be much more...even after the company who designed them has made it clear their role and class dynamic. At a certain point you have to chalk it up, these people will never listen. Will always demand more and just don't read.

(edit: Sorry Morph we were typing the same kinda stuff..oh well)

Those two sentences contradict each other.

Although I agree with most of your post but this paragraph, I must say that one paragraph isn't true at all
Mages were never billed as support/DPS class. In game they're even clearly said to be "expert at elmental damage spells". This doesn't mean elemental weakening spells. It means nukes. Mages are labelled as a dps class, with a few debuffs as a sideorder.

Really sad to see that MAGES are thinking of an melee build to use... That just shows how much they need to be worked on.

Also, don't give me the "'mages have different set ups and builds bs". No set/build can effeciantly solo after 120 without sigils, or resting for at least 2 minutes after every monster. Warriors, rangers, and Druids can do that all the time.

I think it's nuts how all these mages put down being a support player, there is nobody I would rather xp with than a great Mage. I barely want to be n a boss fight without a proper mage . It is true that the the gear that is the sweetest is all dps gear and I think mages and Druids deserve some new items , but c'mon already accept your class for what it is, you are a support class.

I am a 152 ranger and I do not play as dps , i play a support roll , and I like to think it is as beneficial to my clan and any group I am in as is possible. The rants about mages are getting a bit old, accept your roles and do it to the best you possibly can. I Think you will find it's not only fun but extremely helpful for your clan.

As far as xp goes, try teaming up with a ranger , you will fly through the levels.

I'm curious, of all of you who like to parrot the Mage is good for nothing but support, how many of you actually play a Mage? I ask because it seems to me that unless you play one you shouldn't form an opinion on their playability. Those of you that do play a Mage, however, I'm very interested in your opinion.

Now, having said that, I do see the value in supporting. I can tank, with e shield, for a couple of rangers while they attack. When my shield goes down, and before shield cool down, one player with cast light heal to keep me alive til I cast e shield again. It had been effective on mobs like chillmist and others, but let's face facts, I want to be effective those times when other players my level are not online.