Man... My Mage is finally in the 100s. His only damage spell is storm. He is amazing. I can literally see the difference in how fast things die with the lures. It is amazing. I have leveled a handful of toons and this still low levelish Mage is by far the most powerful toon on my roster. Hands down. I too like mages that go boom, flash, kerbam... But I so hope they don't mess up this massive damage add when they 'fix' mages. In a leveling group the Mage is adding more damage than any single toon could possibly hope to add. Did I mention this is amazing? This is the most unique Mage I have ever encountered in an mmo and I love it.
The only real problem is targeting on lures when you have multiple mobs dying from your cloak and lures. Lol... In this situation I don't have time to cast anything but storm anyway because I am keeping three or four lures up on multiple mobs at once. You could make the lures AoE, but I would not want to lose the huge damage boost you get when grouped. I would rather you fix targeting. Just sayin...
In this type of Mage I would like an AoE DoT. For dps freaks you could have all lure dmg, in addition to cloak dmg accrue to the Mage. I already frequently get aggro though, so I am fine that this is not the case.
Also, what lure for h2h? Is it crush dmg? I have not tested it yet. Could we have a poison lure?
OTM if you are going to fix something please, please make it so we can cycle through hostile targets and even target another's target so we can focus fire. Please?
In recognize this is not at all consistent with the Mage complaints and only one voice, but I love the way you have made mages so far at least. I would rather play him in a group (or even as support out of group) right now than any other toon I have. He can play way above his level, like a tank or druid. It is great. Thank you.
Re: Support Mage
#2I agree with you that a support Mage can be awesome. Don't let our complaints lead you to believe otherwise. Our complaints are with our ability to solo, I think. At least mine are. It would seem that we are being given an all you can eat buffet, as long as we like to eat "support" at higher levels. I don't know if other classes have that problem at higher levels, but I would like to think that the game mechanics should allow for players to solo with success at high levels regardless of class.Man... My Mage is finally in the 100s. His only damage spell is storm. He is amazing. I can literally see the difference in how fast things die with the lures. It is amazing. I have leveled a handful of toons and this still low levelish Mage is by far the most powerful toon on my roster. Hands down. I too like mages that go boom, flash, kerbam... But I so hope they don't mess up this massive damage add when they 'fix' mages. In a leveling group the Mage is adding more damage than any single toon could possibly hope to add. Did I mention this is amazing? This is the most unique Mage I have ever encountered in an mmo and I love it.
The only real problem is targeting on lures when you have multiple mobs dying from your cloak and lures. Lol... In this situation I don't have time to cast anything but storm anyway because I am keeping three or four lures up on multiple mobs at once. You could make the lures AoE, but I would not want to lose the huge damage boost you get when grouped. I would rather you fix targeting. Just sayin...
In this type of Mage I would like an AoE DoT. For dps freaks you could have all lure dmg, in addition to cloak dmg accrue to the Mage. I already frequently get aggro though, so I am fine that this is not the case.
Also, what lure for h2h? Is it crush dmg? I have not tested it yet. Could we have a poison lure?
OTM if you are going to fix something please, please make it so we can cycle through hostile targets and even target another's target so we can focus fire. Please?
In recognize this is not at all consistent with the Mage complaints and only one voice, but I love the way you have made mages so far at least. I would rather play him in a group (or even as support out of group) right now than any other toon I have. He can play way above his level, like a tank or druid. It is great. Thank you.
I'm nowhere near your level but I do know that with my lures and shield I can tank for a group without a Druid as long as others can cast light heal on me. I didn't invest any points into healing skills. I just don't want to be limited to a support only role.

Re: Support Mage
#3Hmm, may be a noob question which I will slap myself back soon when someone remind me but i just dont recall mages having any storm spells?Man... My Mage is finally in the 100s. His only damage spell is storm.
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Re: Support Mage
#5ccaliban, what is your build? how many points into what lures ect?
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Re: Support Mage
#6Low vit, all focus.
Cloak maxed.
Fire n Ice into the teens.
Assasin maxed.
Nothing in Giants, though going to run some tests on how it effects h2h. The lure buff seems to be a gross number, rather than a percentage, so it might be amazing. If true this will make the h2h dragon gear Mage even more OP.
Don't have magic or soldier yet.
Only damage I have specced is Firestorm, maxed, for AoE leveling. It works very well.
All fire and Cloak rings.
Fire lure for cloak and fire based dragon gear.
Ice because so many offhands are Ice.
Assassin because most dps is Pierce.
Clanmate has high Soldier and it is amazing on the tank...
I am still pretty low level, but the amount of damage this adds is sick. Because lures go on the target, not the player, it goes up massively in a group. Cloak of course functions as an amazing 'AoE' combined with Warcry.
Truly, the main issue is targeting. You need to get lures on everything pulled and sometimes you just can't.
Since I am often dual boxing I have the advantage if being able to really see the direct effect of all this without thinking from the point of view of a single toon. I saw the early numbers on this under 'secondary dps', but really seeing it something else.
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To be fair I am changing the build around a lot right now in order to figure it out.
Cloak maxed.
Fire n Ice into the teens.
Assasin maxed.
Nothing in Giants, though going to run some tests on how it effects h2h. The lure buff seems to be a gross number, rather than a percentage, so it might be amazing. If true this will make the h2h dragon gear Mage even more OP.
Don't have magic or soldier yet.
Only damage I have specced is Firestorm, maxed, for AoE leveling. It works very well.
All fire and Cloak rings.
Fire lure for cloak and fire based dragon gear.
Ice because so many offhands are Ice.
Assassin because most dps is Pierce.
Clanmate has high Soldier and it is amazing on the tank...
I am still pretty low level, but the amount of damage this adds is sick. Because lures go on the target, not the player, it goes up massively in a group. Cloak of course functions as an amazing 'AoE' combined with Warcry.
Truly, the main issue is targeting. You need to get lures on everything pulled and sometimes you just can't.
Since I am often dual boxing I have the advantage if being able to really see the direct effect of all this without thinking from the point of view of a single toon. I saw the early numbers on this under 'secondary dps', but really seeing it something else.
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To be fair I am changing the build around a lot right now in order to figure it out.

Re: Support Mage
#7very nice.
Im at
cloak 30
fire lure 20
firebolt 25
lure soldiers 15
energy shield 26
bandage 13
with melee gear
30 dex
200 focus
300 vit
pretty good for support and great for leveling and bossing.
Im at
cloak 30
fire lure 20
firebolt 25
lure soldiers 15
energy shield 26
bandage 13
with melee gear
30 dex
200 focus
300 vit
pretty good for support and great for leveling and bossing.
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Re: Support Mage
#8Hello fellow mages,
Support is actually a great option for mages. I know we should still have the option of dps but if you feel like you are not helping out a group as much as you think you should then switch to support. In my build I can almost double the damage of rangers and rogues with my lure of assasins. Here is my build:
Strength: 5
Dexterity: 5
Focus: 235
Vitality: 645
30/30 lure of fire
40/30 cloak of fire
42/30 lure of assasins
30/30(soon to be when I get spell tome) lure of soldiers
12/30 lure of giants
I realize that this build may not work for all mages but you can use it to formulate your own. I also suggest trying to find a mage buddy in your same time zone to work together and max different lures so each can put points into energy regeneration spells or other lures.
If you do not believe that a mage is saying this then pm me or ask for a screen shot. You can also find me in Arawn under the name LordDoctor. I hope people find this post helpful
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Support is actually a great option for mages. I know we should still have the option of dps but if you feel like you are not helping out a group as much as you think you should then switch to support. In my build I can almost double the damage of rangers and rogues with my lure of assasins. Here is my build:
Strength: 5
Dexterity: 5
Focus: 235
Vitality: 645
30/30 lure of fire
40/30 cloak of fire
42/30 lure of assasins
30/30(soon to be when I get spell tome) lure of soldiers
12/30 lure of giants
I realize that this build may not work for all mages but you can use it to formulate your own. I also suggest trying to find a mage buddy in your same time zone to work together and max different lures so each can put points into energy regeneration spells or other lures.
If you do not believe that a mage is saying this then pm me or ask for a screen shot. You can also find me in Arawn under the name LordDoctor. I hope people find this post helpful

Re: Support Mage
#9wow vrael, big change for you huh?
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?
Copy this sig!
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Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?
Copy this sig!

Wiki: http://www.wisdomunderground.com/wiki
Re: Support Mage
#10Hey, can you say anything about your experience with Lure of Giants? I have not found terribly useful. What your reasoning and exp?Hello fellow mages,
Support is actually a great option for mages. I know we should still have the option of dps but if you feel like you are not helping out a group as much as you think you should then switch to support. In my build I can almost double the damage of rangers and rogues with my lure of assasins. Here is my build:
Strength: 5
Dexterity: 5
Focus: 235
Vitality: 645
30/30 lure of fire
40/30 cloak of fire
42/30 lure of assasins
30/30(soon to be when I get spell tome) lure of soldiers
12/30 lure of giants
I realize that this build may not work for all mages but you can use it to formulate your own. I also suggest trying to find a mage buddy in your same time zone to work together and max different lures so each can put points into energy regeneration spells or other lures.
If you do not believe that a mage is saying this then pm me or ask for a screen shot. You can also find me in Arawn under the name LordDoctor. I hope people find this post helpful.
That cloak must be amazing.
I have been running lower health, Eshield in the teens. I had higher health, but I want the focus based boosts. I want a minimum of 350 Focus.
Also, are you using any of the h2h build? If you can I recommend exploring it since it adds greatly to the groups interrupts, which means less heals for Druids and from the mobs.
Are you supporting AoE leveling?
