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Re: Proposed new rules for Ancients and Phoenix

#31
OK, I'm going to go through this one by one and tell you what I think of it.
So one day i was bossing with a bunch of friends and hdbear was killing spirehoof, us friends(all in ancients) saw spirehoof up and went to kill. Hdbear started early so he could say it was his kill and we were ksing, there was no way he would have killed as he was in a group of level 60s. We invited him to group but he stayed quiet until the end when we got the kill he called ks. This enraged many as he said i ksed him
I believe you were in the wrong here. If HDBear started killing Spirehoof before you, then you should only try to help him and not kill steal. He was helping his group and so you should have left him, unless he allowed you to help. If his group got wiped out (which as you say seemed likely), then your group could have intervened and taken the kill. If he didn't accept your group requests then so be it - if he late wanted to join your group when you got the boss then you may not want to allow him in which is fine, as he didn't want to be in your group originally.
later that day when i was on elixer, HDbear came for revenge and ksed about 5 trees of mine. I told the clan but nobody seemed to care and started flaming me for ksing him at spirehoof earlier.
That's not your fault and should have been dealt with by the clan independently. Revenge is not the way forward and so this should not have happened.
Then about 2 weeks later i made a rogue alt and we were both training on connact and I "ksed"(he had like 4 on him and i was taking the ones off he wasnt attacking) a few of his alts connacht, I honestly didnt know it was him and he was sending me messages saying dont ks or whatever but he was just hogging all the mobs so I couldnt kill them.
Next time, ask before helping others as you don't know what they'd think of it. If he was hogging them, tell him and warn him that you might start taking enemies off him so at least you told him. If the problem persists, go and level elsewhere.
I told him stfu or whatever which was rude I admit but whatever just keep reading.
You know your fault.
He decided to hop on main and ks me. Real mature.
Agreed. As above, this shouldn't happen. Mature people would work things through, not get revenge.
a month later i get kicked for "ksing and being rude to clansmen" okay then big guy. I later get reinvited to the clan and apologize to hdbear and he ignores me. I get kicked again and you use me swearing as an excuse. I later apologize in our group at deadroot to hdbear and everyone could see it but hdbear decides to be an immature child again and says "why zirl in grup" and they regrouped around me after we all did about 1/4 of his hp. REAL MATURE HDBEAR. Sure I made some faults but i dont hold grudges and im not as immature as this guy.
I see your dilemma. Yes, things should be worked out between you two. No one should be alienated and I suggest HDBear grows up and accepts the past. If he still doesn't want to do so and hold a grudge against you for a game, then so be it. Show him you're the stronger one and that you have something he doesn't: maturity. Take it in your stride.
Please dont just trust his words because hes a loyal clansmen, believe mine because they are true and dont be so ignorant as to not see this. Now i have wasted time writing this paragraph and i expect you to read it and read it well and dont be biased just because you like him better.
I'm completely impartial. By no means have you wasted your time. :)

If this story is entirely true, then you have both made mistakes and you should both learn from them. If you can't get through to HDBear, ask someone else if they can. :)
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Re: Proposed new rules for Ancients and Phoenix

#32
For goodness sake, i don't really want to hear any more about Zirl an HD. For good or ill, the issue is done and over. HD and Zirl, please just ignore each other - don't KS each other, don't be in groups together if you wish. I recommend blocking each other too.

There have been more than one person I just did not want to deal with - so guess what - i didn't. i could avoid grping them, or if i was in grp i could just not interact with them. All the bosses will respawn another time, so it is easy to avoid people.

On note about KSing or Helping:

Do not help another person or group directly without asking first. They will not know your are helping, and even if you try to, if you are not careful, you could KS by accident. if you respond to a call for a boss (say Spirehoof) and you get there to see another group fighting do not start fighting. You have two choices (assuming you cant combine groups) - help them or watch to see if they crash and you can take the kill.

1. if you choose to help them, do so indirectly - put on buffs (poison weapon, bark, etc), heal them, cloak of fire or def spikes.
2. take care of adds
3. do not attack the boss directly. Once the boss is CLEARLY past halfway, you may ask them if they would like some help to finish the boss - most ppl with say yes and thanks, at which point, go to town.

always set a good example and reinforce that to your group - especially if you have younger/lower level players with you. Be a good sport and maintain the reputation of the clan.

I was in a group the other day (on a low level anonymous alt), killing a deadroot and we didn't get the kill cause a small group of Ancients was 'helping us'. It was crowded, we were a low level group (by comparison), and didn't even notice the few ancients that had joined the battle. But despite starting after us and trying to help up, they took the kill. The group I was with was utterly shocked not to have gotten the kill and to realize it was Ancients who took it. The first thing someone said was 'I thought Ancients didn't KS'. I was personally quite embarrassed by the whole thing.

So please be polite and follow the guidelines above.
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Re: Proposed new rules for Ancients and Phoenix

#34
wow.... sorry to hear that akbar. Those who were invlolved with ksing Deadroot, I want you to own up and appologise directly ingame. Your lack of awareness is a big issue that we Ancients help you improve and hopefully learn for future encounters and refrences.

The hdbear and zirl situation, just as ak said block eachother. Don't group eachother. And they all lived hatefully ever after end of story.
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