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Defensive Spikes vs. Barbed Shot

#1
hi all,

i am considering a major 'alteration' and am thinking about putting a good 30 points into either barbed shot or defensive spikes. Here is my question - what kind of typical damage can i expect (i dont want to alter twice to find out). So if you are someone who has put 20-30 points into one of these skills, please let me know the dmg you see at a typical mob (like eye or tree). thanks!
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Re: Defensive Spikes vs. Barbed Shot

#4
Another consideration is whether you frequently group with rogues who use rend. Currently there is a bug whereby rend and barbed shot don't stack.
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Re: Defensive Spikes vs. Barbed Shot

#5
though it may not be very 'rangerish', i tend to do one bolas and rapid - then finish off the mob in melee range (using a large light heal to keep me going). i am thinking defensive spike might be the way to go - place it on just as they get in range. Also, if it really works like cloak, the more attacks they do, the more damage they take (unlike barbed which will only be about 3 rounds of dmg).

thanks
Civility, Integrity, and the Hermeneutic of Generosity

World: Lugh
Akbar: Ranger 220+
DrXyn-Druid 180+
Xyn: Mage 170+
Rabka: Rogue 150+
Rabak: Warrior 90+
Clan: Chieftain of Ancients

Re: Defensive Spikes vs. Barbed Shot

#6
though it may not be very 'rangerish', i tend to do one bolas and rapid - then finish off the mob in melee range (using a large light heal to keep me going). i am thinking defensive spike might be the way to go - place it on just as they get in range. Also, if it really works like cloak, the more attacks they do, the more damage they take (unlike barbed which will only be about 3 rounds of dmg).

thanks

Reverse the process to maximize damage . Spikes with bolas on mob then back off to heal or recast spikes as needed.
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Re: Defensive Spikes vs. Barbed Shot

#7
though it may not be very 'rangerish', i tend to do one bolas and rapid - then finish off the mob in melee range (using a large light heal to keep me going). i am thinking defensive spike might be the way to go - place it on just as they get in range. Also, if it really works like cloak, the more attacks they do, the more damage they take (unlike barbed which will only be about 3 rounds of dmg).

thanks
Well, considering I have Maybe 1/10th the XP you have (L85 vs your L130 lol).... but that sounds like a waste of skill points? If you're already into bolas+rapid (so am I), wouldn't just re-relocating to a different spot (possible after another bolas) do the same thing?
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Re: Defensive Spikes vs. Barbed Shot

#9
im currently 137 and im dex type ranger with 560 dex with gear 100 str 10 focus and 150 vit, i only use bolas on boses (up to lvl110 and have royal ring in case i need for lvl 110+ boss) i have grand ring of spikes (34/30) and this really helps me in lava fields cuz its quicker to kill than using bolas, i only get hit bout 2 every 6 attacks so i dont have to heal every kill and my spikes does 90 dmg maximum, and yes spikes does a lot of damage than barbed especially when fighting main bosses that have higher attacks speed. and spikes cannot be resisted unlike barbed.
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