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Re: Why mages are mad.

#81
Do existing high level mages understand that all other classes love them as much as we do ?
Ikr.. Mages are the same as they always were, just with better dps than than pre-update, and the option to be support. Otherworld is difficult, go DPS and duo with a Druid.. It's possible, Rogues can't solo in Ow either so they had to do it, it's part of the game.

Also PvP means nothing. If you disagree with all my points, then you clearly did not read them. Mages can be insane support classes, don't HAVE to be, but can. Nothing got nerfed about a Mage from update 2, only buffed. You have all the same skills you did have + Incinerate and Firestorm for DPS. You also have Sacri so you don't neccasarily need Sigils.

For those saying you wish you could go rogue.. Try it. Try levelling a rogue to 130+ and you will still be complaining about not being able to solo and rogues suck.

If you want to be dps, here's a little build you could try.

Based on a level 120 Mage.

Stats:

Strength - 5
Dexterity - 5
Focus - 415
Vitality - 200

Skills:

Incinerate - 25
Fireball - 25
Cloak of Fire - 25
Fire Lure - 25
Sacrifice - 20 (With no sigils)
Firestorm - 20 (With Sigils).

Alternatively,

Fireball - 25
Ice shards - 25
Cloak of fire - 25
Ice lure - 10
Fire lure - 15
Sacrifice - 20 (With no sigils)
Incinerate - 20 (With sigils).

By the way, Notso is regularly needed and is a great support mage. Top of the list to join a Wyvern Levelling group.

I see the only problem they actually have is levelling.. And that can be solved by grouping with a Druid :)

Apart from that lil dig at the bottom of Eliminaters post, I fully agree. Boss fights suck without mages and they are certainly top of my to-group list when levelling!
RAPIDx - 225 Rogue
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Some Guy - 220 Rogue
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#82
So you do understand how important Mage is at this point ?

It seems to me most mages posting are very self centered and not team oriented , to be successful in this game it's all bout the team and how we all help each other, mages seem to be too concerned with who gets the kill and not being able to kill a tougher enemy.

I absolutely love mages , leveling any class with a Mage is tops , boss kills without mages suck.

You all need to get over it , you are a support class , suck it up buttercup.
There are alts for that ... A lvl 120 mage full support just as good as 149 main mage
And we get alot sigils not to use up points on healing and regains .... Trying to keep up with the game
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#83
So you do understand how important Mage is at this point ?

It seems to me most mages posting are very self centered and not team oriented , to be successful in this game it's all bout the team and how we all help each other, mages seem to be too concerned with who gets the kill and not being able to kill a tougher enemy.

I absolutely love mages , leveling any class with a Mage is tops , boss kills without mages suck.

You all need to get over it , you are a support class , suck it up buttercup.
There are alts for that ... A lvl 120 mage full support just as good as 149 main mage
And we get alot sigils not to use up points on healing and regains .... Trying to keep up with the game
A level 120 Mage full support, in a group of 2-3 140 rogues, is like the equivalent to 2 140 Rogues.
RAPIDx - 225 Rogue
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Some Guy - 220 Rogue
Epona Prodigy

Re: Why mages are mad.

#84
Mages fixes need to be made , energy lowering , higher damage , element damage into skills ...
Then mages will be fine
Question for rouge so you think "dps skill caster" aren't allowed to be just as good as rouge damage ?
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#87
Do existing high level mages understand that all other classes love them as much as we do ?
Ikr.. Mages are the same as they always were, just with better dps than than pre-update, and the option to be support. Otherworld is difficult, go DPS and duo with a Druid.. It's possible, Rogues can't solo in Ow either so they had to do it, it's part of the game.

Also PvP means nothing. If you disagree with all my points, then you clearly did not read them. Mages can be insane support classes, don't HAVE to be, but can. Nothing got nerfed about a Mage from update 2, only buffed. You have all the same skills you did have + Incinerate and Firestorm for DPS. You also have Sacri so you don't neccasarily need Sigils.

For those saying you wish you could go rogue.. Try it. Try levelling a rogue to 130+ and you will still be complaining about not being able to solo and rogues suck.

If you want to be dps, here's a little build you could try.

Based on a level 120 Mage.

Stats:

Strength - 5
Dexterity - 5
Focus - 415
Vitality - 200

Skills:

Incinerate - 25
Fireball - 25
Cloak of Fire - 25
Fire Lure - 25
Sacrifice - 20 (With no sigils)
Firestorm - 20 (With Sigils).

Alternatively,

Fireball - 25
Ice shards - 25
Cloak of fire - 25
Ice lure - 10
Fire lure - 15
Sacrifice - 20 (With no sigils)
Incinerate - 20 (With sigils).

By the way, Notso is regularly needed and is a great support mage. Top of the list to join a Wyvern Levelling group.

I see the only problem they actually have is levelling.. And that can be solved by grouping with a Druid :)

Apart from that lil dig at the bottom of Eliminaters post, I fully agree. Boss fights suck without mages and they are certainly top of my to-group list when levelling!
Mage dps dont mean soloing .... And dps is low on living long ... All we saying is being dps
16 boxer!! All Seeing One
Owner of 6 camos,2 broom of dooms,white carpet , 2011 HP pendant
First to take Necro down!!!

Re: Why mages are mad.

#88
Mages fixes need to be made , energy lowering , higher damage , element damage into skills ...
Then mages will be fine
Question for rouge so you think "dps skill caster" aren't allowed to be just as good as rouge damage ?
Technically, yes. If mages have just as good direct dps (or better) than rogues.. Rogues simply have nothing. A rogue healing energy? Not gonna happen. I mean, I guess rogues could lure bosses kinda, but it's not the same affect. Give rogues a cloak skill with lures and remove them from Mage, then allow mages to be better direct DPS. I would be more than happy with that :lol:
RAPIDx - 225 Rogue
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Some Guy - 220 Rogue
Epona Prodigy

Re: Why mages are mad.

#89
No I do not think mages should ever be able to out dps rogues.

Rogues are the dps class, the only true dps class in the game, I've yet to see a rogue play effectively any other way.
Disagree rouges melee dps and mages skill caster dps need to do the same damage per min
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#90
Do existing high level mages understand that all other classes love them as much as we do ?
Lol ok my rouge 10$ and my mage ehhh too much and will be more if i want to keep him up with others so to be a good mage will cost u alot .... That's why mages don't like there call we put in so much to be what SUPPORT..... Count on others ... Great class sigh

I doubt there is truth in the $10 only spent on rogue. If you solo with rogue you need massive amounts of pots. The best rogues I k ow all have a ton of health sigils btw.
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