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Re: Why mages are mad.

#111
Just wanted to say that support mage is not that bad but I really do feel stupid just casting lures all day and letting my friends do all the hard work. They waste tons of restos and all I do is sit there tapping every now and then. I personally do not regard this as 'team' work.
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#112
Just wanted to say that support mage is not that bad but I really do feel stupid just casting lures all day and letting my friends do all the hard work. They waste tons of restos and all I do is sit there tapping every now and then. I personally do not regard this as 'team' work.
That's not your fault. If they are dieing they are killing things too high for them or rely purely on dps. You DO help with lure but I agree.
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#113
False advertising? This is turning ridiculous, Get a grip. If you knew mages sucked in Update 2, why make one and continue to level it? If you started a Mage in Update 3, didn't you think to read the Mage forums prior?

As I have stated - SIGILS ARE VOLUNTARY, NOT MANDATORY.

Max Sacrifice, Max energy boost, you won't need sigils, simple.
I will tell u why .... Cuz too far just to drop that class ...same as any person that has a high lvl mage
And if we energy healers ok... Compare to druid heals sigh mages just sux make it atleast the same why make the mages go crazy .... Ok druid heals 1,000 how much energy he losses 130 ish ...lets look at mages lose your health to give energy away not to mention about 250 really fair for a mage energy healer .... Why make it crazy hard for mages
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#114
Wow Marshall.

Well said. Hire this guy to be a beta tester.

LOL don't choose guys like me who are hot in the collar. :-)
Marshill was a beta tester and he gave tremendous and valuable input to improve the Mage class during the beta period. The biggest problem is that NO ONE AT OTM ACTUALLY PLAYS A MAGE to realize that the class is terribly broken.
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#115
by Eliminater » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:09 pm
Zuper7 wrote:
by Eliminater » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:21 pm
No I do not think mages should ever be able to out dps rogues.

Rogues are the dps class, the only true dps class in the game, I've yet to see a rogue play effectively any other way.

Not true Masm is a rouge tank and he makes a really good tank for being a rouge lol


What level is masm ? I've seen rogue tanks and they are not effective . Now I've seen rogues tank and it's awesome , but a tank build rogue couldn't keep agro off my ranger or my rogue , so it's not really effective .

I think that you had to qualify your statement with "for being a rogue" is very telling
Masm is level 134

And for an extra point on mage energy consumption from the point of a solo mage
Energy shield costs 1236 energy at 30/30
My ice shards at 41/30 cost 500 energy each!!!
That's a lot of friggen energy being consumed every 15 seconds, and energy shield every time its ready to be recanted(30 seconds so even more energy by counting cloak of fire and lures and firebolt
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#116
Ik a 144 rouge who has probably spent 10 bucks on this game, hes one of the best dps on server.
Dude comon, i've spent like £50! :lol: haha, not much and I have no sigils so that has no affect on me. I levelled from 110-144 with a druid and couldn't get 1 kill by myself :)
Max Sacrifice, Max energy boost
I'LL SAY IT AGAIN IN BOLD. OK IF I MAX THOSE OUT WHAT THE FRAKKING HELL DO I USE TO ATTACK WITH???? I HAVE NO POINTS TO PUT ANYWHERE ELSE TO BE EFFECTIVE. MY WEAPONS SUCK. Then you have other people on here going why don't you be a support mage. THEN YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT. How many frakking skill points do you think we have???

At the higher levels, boss fighting and OW, mage is useless.

I basically leveled my alt rogue to 70 in one day. Actually it took two days, but if you take away sleep, family, eating, going out, etc. So playing low is easy.
Congratulations... Now continue to level your rogue into otherworld and continue the *** about not being able to solo.

No one could solo level effectively in Otherworld apart from rangers. You think it makes you look weak shouting for group training? that's kinda sad.. Group training is part of the game. Also, No skills spare after putting a few in sacri or energy boost? what are you, level 10?

I now understand that the problem is with the energy consumption. It's hard to tell with people complaining about not being able to solo, not being top DPS and all other stuff.

I am out as I now have no feedback to give. Hopefully this energy problem gets solved for you mages, but I don't really think their is anything wrong with your DPS. :)
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#117
Ik a 144 rouge who has probably spent 10 bucks on this game, hes one of the best dps on server.
Dude comon, i've spent like £50! :lol: haha, not much and I have no sigils so that has no affect on me. I levelled from 110-144 with a druid and couldn't get 1 kill by myself :)
Max Sacrifice, Max energy boost
I'LL SAY IT AGAIN IN BOLD. OK IF I MAX THOSE OUT WHAT THE FRAKKING HELL DO I USE TO ATTACK WITH???? I HAVE NO POINTS TO PUT ANYWHERE ELSE TO BE EFFECTIVE. MY WEAPONS SUCK. Then you have other people on here going why don't you be a support mage. THEN YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT. How many frakking skill points do you think we have???

At the higher levels, boss fighting and OW, mage is useless.

I basically leveled my alt rogue to 70 in one day. Actually it took two days, but if you take away sleep, family, eating, going out, etc. So playing low is easy.
Congratulations... Now continue to level your rogue into otherworld and continue the *** about not being able to solo.

No one could solo level effectively in Otherworld apart from rangers. You think it makes you look weak shouting for group training? that's kinda sad.. Group training is part of the game. Also, No skills spare after putting a few in sacri or energy boost? what are you, level 10?

I now understand that the problem is with the energy consumption. It's hard to tell with people complaining about not being able to solo, not being top DPS and all other stuff.

I am out as I now have no feedback to give. Hopefully this energy problem gets solved for you mages, but I don't really think their is anything wrong with your DPS. :)
Being a support mage really suxs many time i find falgren an lose him cuz iam support new quest i always need some one to help me with EVERYTHING and many time ppl lvling in cave on pot wait a sec sigh lost kill ... FYI ppl will first group with druid rather then mage ... Yea he lowers the killing time by half but will cost the tanker plat to stay alive so ppl go with druids ....
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Re: Why mages are mad.

#118
BLRD and I will never see eye to eye.

Lvl 126, one at a time.
Solo eyes = check.
solo trees = check.
solo ghosts = check.
solo rock monsters up to 3 stars = check.

If you can't even solo eyes at lvl 110 without the help of a druid, then you have issues beyond which none of us can help you with.

I've done extensive testing with mulitple builds and differing lux gear to get my mage to where it is now.

Did you???

Re: Why mages are mad.

#119
Ik a 144 rouge who has probably spent 10 bucks on this game, hes one of the best dps on server.
Dude comon, i've spent like £50! :lol: haha, not much and I have no sigils so that has no affect on me. I levelled from 110-144 with a druid and couldn't get 1 kill by myself :)
Good one Rap, I think he was reffering to someone else :lol:

Jk :D
False advertising? This is turning ridiculous, Get a grip. If you knew mages sucked in Update 2, why make one and continue to level it? If you started a Mage in Update 3, didn't you think to read the Mage forums prior?

As I have stated - SIGILS ARE VOLUNTARY, NOT MANDATORY.

Max Sacrifice, Max energy boost, you won't need sigils, simple.
I will tell u why .... Cuz too far just to drop that class ...same as any person that has a high lvl mage
And if we energy healers ok... Compare to druid heals sigh mages just sux make it atleast the same why make the mages go crazy .... Ok druid heals 1,000 how much energy he losses 130 ish ...lets look at mages lose your health to give energy away not to mention about 250 really fair for a mage energy healer .... Why make it crazy hard for mages
MadOnion is right! it costs more health than recieved energy with sacrifice and sigils are not needed but it's like a rogue with no offhand.
SirBlaze333 - 220+ Warrior
(Returning Player)

Re: Why mages are mad.

#120
Some possible solutions:

- Frozen mage armour gives 2 energy regen per peice per click - least a reason to go for it

- since mage armour is so light, they should be able to move a bit quicker (since heroic boots r useless cuz they cant afford to lose any more amour)

- Metoeric wand gives 10% faster cast rate (since heroic gloves r useless because mages dont hit with their wand)

- Ice Barage (50 dmg per skill lvl + damage equal to four times the player level), 1 min cooldown

eg:
lvl 25 mage with 15 Ice Barage would do 850 dmg (50x15+100)
lvl 50 mage with 20 Ice Barage would do 1200 dmg (50x20+200)
lvl 100 mage with 25 ice Barage would do 1650 dmg (50x25+400)
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