Celtic Heroes

We are definately the most underpowered melee class :p
We only have one build choice and it's only useful in groups

+1 to giving frozen dagger a boost, ours is the only weapon that has a lower base damage than the diamond weapon, thanks for the input songz

No problem. If I ever shoot any ideas out in clan chat tell me to post here. I definitely will.

it would be great if we could get some feedback from some other high leveled rogues,
community or admin would be nice too :p

Ok I. Really liking my rogue but I personally would like quick strike to be dex and weapon based instead of str and weapon based. I think that makes more sense and we really won't have enough dex based damage skills. Auto, sneaky, rend and assassinate are str based and only poison is dex based.

Another item that is not just rogue specific is that evades should get dex bonuses. I admit I am biased because I am running a full dex build with a Str of 5. I clean house on auto mobs but skill mobs eat my lunch.

Re piggys post, play dead would be awsome IF the mob would not reset. When soloing the mob could stand around not knowing what to hit, I don't care what it does, it can do a dance on my play dead body, just don't reset. It would need a chance to fail, ( they detect we are alive) or it would be OP.

quick strike dex based would make the skill worse overall than it is... to be a good rogue at a high level damage is expected and throwing alot of points into dex doesnt help so much

Personally I spent a good 400+ plat on just trying different builds. Dex build is really good for solo if you have good damage charms. But absolutely useless in a boss fight. I like the dex build for pvp. Dodge soooo many hits. It's quite nice. Quickstrike should be dex based just to fit one rouges build. It's a strength skill or a reason. Strength is for doing damage. Dex is or hitting more often and dodging those are totally different stats. Rouges need more strength then anything. In my opinion. TO be good dps. Don't get me wrong. Dex is an amazing stat. Just 65 dex here and I hit quite often and dodge a lot.

Frozen dagger is the most powerfull frozen weapon yes it's damage is lower then diamond but it's speed is what give it the most boost so I have to disagree. If you look at the extra damage from pireceing effect all classes the same but rogues have the speed o make the most of it. I'd you really look at it of rogues weapon was decrease by 100 speed as well it would be more overpowered. To prove this

Let's just say warrior wep was 2000 speed rogues was 1000

So rogues hit 2 for every one of warriors hit. So -100 from rogue and warrior weap

Now rogues have 900 speed and warriors 1900 speed now rogues hot more then twice as at as warriors

So I keep them twice as fast u would need to -50 instead of 100 off speed so really your talking without fully thinking it through 100%. It's about % decrease not the number.

Anyway on topic posion weapon should have a % increase and deffo needs some boost with time cause atm if I use it I loose about 600-1k damage a min your ideas seem sweet. I do not agree with stun skill just doesn't seem rogue like. Would much prefer a skill where we can't be seen for a few secs and can be cast in combat aswell as keep attacking but rend 100% agree pointless skill I lose dps from this. And assasinate just make it univadable and would be sweet

I must agree with everything that has been said so far (not going to bather repeating that just gets boring ). Especially that, yes, we are the most underpowered melee class at the moment...

Maybe this should be posted infeedback and suggestions if it needs more attention. If it hasnt already :|

quick strike dex based would make the skill worse overall than it is... to be a good rogue at a high level damage is expected and throwing alot of points into dex doesnt help so much

Dex helps wonderfully just not against skills.

One of the big complaints about rogue is that there is only one build. Other classes have build choices but the rogue does not. Well of course not because you always want all skills to be str based. So the only build is a str build. The one thing this game does not have is a build that avoids damage. A dex rogue would do lower damage but live longer due to avoiding damage. A great skill that nobody has would be "find cover" which could be a dex based skill that increases your ability to avoid skills because you are swift at using your surroundings to protect you. It would not be OP because you could not be a dps rogue and an avoidance rogue at the same time.

You have claimed in the past that quick strike is worthless at higher levels so why not let it be worthwhile for some other build?