Celtic Heroes

Quick update on skills:

with +75 worth of rings of pugilism (h2h ability)
No weapon and all other damage gear: 2130 attack / 438 damage
Knuckleblades and all other damage gear: 2330 attack / 607 damage

with +75 worth or rings of daggers (dagger ability)
diamond dagger and all other damage gear: 2330 attack / 832 damage

Will analyze later, and perhaps integrate into my original data dump.

Aleph, thanks again!

interesting results...

215 Str
1285 Ability (1210 H2H base, +75 from rings, but no +200 from knuckles)
With all gears posted previously 34 Pierce dmg, 248 Elem dmg but no knuckles
and I get 433.84*

215 Str
1485 Ability (1210 H2H base, 75 rings, 200 from knuckles)
With all gears posted previously 64 Pierce dmg, 248 Elem dmg
and I get 608.15

215 Str
1485 Ability (1210 Dagger base, 75 rings, 200 from blade)
With all gears posted previously 64 Pierce dmg, 248 Elem dmg
and I get 833.24


*One additional calc
215 Str
1485 Ability (1210 H2H base, +75 from rings, but With +200 from knuckles)
With all gears posted previously 34 Pierce dmg, 248 Elem dmg but no knuckles
and I get 439.33!!!
Coincidence?

Hmmm

Could the 5 pt difference be from the base dmg result you get when 'naked", since you didn't have any weap equipped?

My question still wasn't fully answered. I was given a list of pros and cons, but I still don't know why a druid would use the golden blades over the trident. Could someone feel me in because to me the trident looks so much more appealing to a druid.

Golden Blade of Ice is a nice offhand on Lava. Simply put that's it.

There's no regen. But now with ammy's, rings, bracelets etc you can have a ton of regen on a Druid and not necessarily need more... Is that always true? No, not at all, but some builds that use less over-skilled skills can easily go for a better fire resist, a higher Melee dps and a lava oriented Druid solo lvling build. Most likely rolling with embrace, fire ward, and possibly ward of giants, anyway...it's zone oriented and build oriented, but if I had that build, and was on lava, I would choose the Golden Blade of Ice.

I use the trident basically because Lava is a zone, maybe you could count the Grimwall Golems at the N-S pathway as part of the Fire Creatures you lvl up on... So maybe you could call the Golden Blade of Ice a worthy offhand from 120-140, but yeah the regen especially for a Druid who chooses to over-skill, which let's be honest is almost all of us, is better. And trident is more useful in your lower lvls 80-120 and later after lava. Now all these things cost money, if you need to make a choice the Trident is the safe one, but the golden blade of ice is great on lava.

So see how much money you have when you get to lava

• H2H weapon (Diamond Knuckleblades 30 pierce, +200 H2H ability): 1600 attack / 164 dmg
• Dagger (Diamond Quickblade 70 pierce, +200 dagger ability): 1600 attack / 383 dmg

by the way Aleph, can you post the speed of each weapon?

thanks!

Weapon speeds (going from memory):

• Diamond Knucklebades: 1750
• Diamond Dagger: 2500
• Shoreline Dagger (my usual weapon for ability training and interrupts): 1520

Would it help for me to do another data dump with the shoreline dagger and various equipment?

Weapon speeds (going from memory):

• Diamond Knucklebades: 1750
• Diamond Dagger: 2500
• Shoreline Dagger (my usual weapon for ability training and interrupts): 1520

Would it help for me to do another data dump with the shoreline dagger and various equipment?

Nah, but thank you! I'm thinking of something else lol

Btw, what did you think of previous calcs, esp with regards to H2H ability contributing to Damage?

Hmm Aleph, how insane is this?

DPS - damage per second, a literal averaging of damage that can be dealt every second.

If you have 1K damage that you can deliver every 4 seconds, your DPS is 250.00
If you have 1K damage that you can deliver every 3 seconds, your DPS is 333.33

Based on All the numbers we have here:
Diamond Knucks: 30 dmg, 1750 speed, DPS 17.1429
Diamond Dagger: 70 dmg, 2500 speed, DPS 28.00

Aleph w Diamond Knucks + everything: 603 damage, 1750 speed, DPS 344.57
Aleph w Diamond Daggers + everything: 826 damage, 2500 speed, DPS 330.40

Is there a way to Actually confirm/deny this?

Aleph w Diamond Knucks + everything: 603 damage, 1750 speed, DPS 344.57
Aleph w Diamond Daggers + everything: 826 damage, 2500 speed, DPS 330.40

Is there a way to Actually confirm/deny this?

It's hard to say, but anecdotally I find that I seem to take down mobs faster with the knucks, and usually use them over the diamond dagger.

The dps calculations get skewed even further in favour of the knucks when you factor in my maxed poison weapon, which adds 54 unresisted damage to each hit. These equations will change once I get a frozen dagger (will be awhile, considering I just started the meteoric upgrade quest yesterday), which has a speed of 1900. Also note that with my current build I have no points in the dagger-based abilities (sneaky attack and assassinate).

Hmm Aleph, how insane is this?

DPS - damage per second, a literal averaging of damage that can be dealt every second.

If you have 1K damage that you can deliver every 4 seconds, your DPS is 250.00
If you have 1K damage that you can deliver every 3 seconds, your DPS is 333.33

Based on All the numbers we have here:
Diamond Knucks: 30 dmg, 1750 speed, DPS 17.1429
Diamond Dagger: 70 dmg, 2500 speed, DPS 28.00

Aleph w Diamond Knucks + everything: 603 damage, 1750 speed, DPS 344.57
Aleph w Diamond Daggers + everything: 826 damage, 2500 speed, DPS 330.40

Is there a way to Actually confirm/deny this?

Video, take a video of 20 sec of dumping dps on a target I would probably say arena where a Druid could heal yer target and go over the video later to count the exact dps laid out. That's really the only way to confirm officially.

Aleph w Diamond Knucks + everything: 603 damage, 1750 speed, DPS 344.57
Aleph w Diamond Daggers + everything: 826 damage, 2500 speed, DPS 330.40

Is there a way to Actually confirm/deny this?

It's hard to say, but anecdotally I find that I seem to take down mobs faster with the knucks, and usually use them over the diamond dagger.

The dps calculations get skewed even further in favour of the knucks when you factor in my maxed poison weapon, which adds 54 unresisted damage to each hit. These equations will change once I get a frozen dagger (will be awhile, considering I just started the meteoric upgrade quest yesterday), which has a speed of 1900. Also note that with my current build I have no points in the dagger-based abilities (sneaky attack and assassinate).

Yea, I was actually thinking of Pigman's Str build with Zero skill usage LOL. It seems knucks would just be 100% fit to that build!