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Re: Target Lock is not what you think it is.

#51
So all bosses are supposed to be able to be taken in 15minutes, yet Avalon can't do that regularly and they have all the top rogues and rangers in their world? Highest level ranger in Morrigan NOT in Avalon - 138, in Rhiannon NOT in EternalSin - 146. Highest level Rogue in Morrigan NOT in Avalon - 133, in Rhiannon NOT in EternalSin - 150.

I believe EternalSin are the only clan actively taking Aggragoth and have the fastest time in 59minutes. No other clan has killed faster so technically we are the most capable, but still not capable ourselves.. This confuses me but ahh well. Just remember that just because you have all the top dps in 1 clan, not all other worlds do. It seems as though you want the rules of the game to revolve around 1 clan.

Looking at the stats on your world and saying 3 clans can take Ignus, it honestly seems as though the reason y'all don't want target lock is because you will lose more bosses to clans with less dps. That does not make them any less capable (because they have less dps). If a clan can take a boss they are capable. Regardless of plat spent, regardless of number of deaths. The speed of the kill does not matter.

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Re: Target Lock is not what you think it is.

#52
So all bosses are supposed to be able to be taken in 15minutes, yet Avalon can't do that regularly and they have all the top rogues and rangers in their world? Highest level ranger in Morrigan NOT in Avalon - 138, in Rhiannon NOT in EternalSin - 146. Highest level Rogue in Morrigan NOT in Avalon - 133, in Rhiannon NOT in EternalSin - 150.

I believe EternalSin are the only clan actively taking Aggragoth and have the fastest time in 59minutes. No other clan has killed faster so technically we are the most capable, but still not capable ourselves.. This confuses me but ahh well. Just remember that just because you have all the top dps in 1 clan, not all other worlds do. It seems as though you want the rules of the game to revolve around 1 clan.

Looking at the stats on your world and saying 3 clans can take Ignus, it honestly seems as though the reason y'all don't want target lock is because you will lose more bosses to clans with less dps. That does not make them any less capable (because they have less dps). If a clan can take a boss they are capable. Regardless of plat spent, regardless of number of deaths. The speed of the kill does not matter.

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You and I clearly see things differently .

And you clearly have a different understanding of the phrase " less capable " .
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Re: Target Lock is not what you think it is.

#54
We often use haste scrolls, which do not cost plat
That's cool ...
Compare scrolls to lix .....
The point is ya claming "bosses" should be killed under 15 mins "the right way"
Then in other posts you guys claming useing "plat" to kill bosses is wrong ...

IMO dont matter if it takes 20 hours dont matter if used 6,000 pots what matter if they killed him
They putting so much effort into killing him they deserve that kill *yey lock*
In the end they more happy about it,compare to you guys killing him in 11 ish something that becomes boreing after 3-4 times
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Re: Target Lock is not what you think it is.

#55
it honestly seems as though the reason y'all don't want target lock is because you will lose more bosses to clans with less dps. That does not make them any less capable (because they have less dps). If a clan can take a boss they are capable.
We haven't been farming OW bosses as much as before since all our clan is full frozen so I honestly don't care if we lose more bosses to other clans. But it really all boils down to which clan has the discipline to camp and farm bosses. In fact, we can probably get more bosses with target lock since most of our clan play alts these days, we can't really rush to the boss spot as fast as the other clans who are always in Otherworld. All we need is a ranger or a warrior/druid to hold the boss til we can get our group together.

That is what I am against, is for 1 or 2 people to hold a boss while the rest of the group arrives. Admin claims "if a group wipes the boss resets". Well have you really seen a group wipe with unlimited idol usage? I am 100% for target locking if idol cooldown is increased to 1 minute and potion cooldown is increased to 30 seconds. This way, the boss has a real chance to actually win.
So all bosses are supposed to be able to be taken in 15minutes, yet Avalon can't do that regularly and they have all the top rogues and rangers in their world?
Well not all our rogues and rangers are online at the same time. And I never said bosses are supposed to be able to be taken in 15 minutes. Admin did, and that is just a baseline we used. You don't have to deal in absolutes. If you don't have enough dps, then you can kill Aggy in 30-45 minutes, even 1 hour heck if fighting a boss for 1 hour isn't boring to you. But some clans kill for 4 hours? That's just insane, an obvious sign they aren't ready.

Did I said that " you said we kill him w/o haste" did i? Seen many post from u/ mates saying killing aggy w/o using plat
We are arguing about semantics here. When all the other servers (besides a few who killed Aggy late), posted on the forums, they said they killed Aggy in 4 hours with thousands of plat used, or some clan did it in 1.5 hours with hundreds of plat used. That is what we are referring to. The occasional idol or haste elixir here or there doesn't really matter. It's when people said they used 100 idols and 300 health potions, etc. Now Aggragoth has been nerfed, and frozen weapons proc on him now and he has less minions than before, so he is a really p*ssy now and clans who regularly kill him don't really use hundreds of plat anymore. But some still do. Some new clans who attempt him and fail still use hundreds of plat, and that's what pigman, elim and others have been referring to. If you need idols and pots to kill Aggy, then you're better off leveling.
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Re: Target Lock is not what you think it is.

#56
There's a first to all ...
Yes first aggy kills were long even for you guys like wat was it 1hr ....
People learn from first kill secound one is much less cost cuz you know what you dealing with
3-ect is boreing and easy
Not to mention he was much harder that day yes crom and scavengers shop wasnt there ...
I dont remeber seeing a world fighting him 4 hours ... What world was that ?

Edit now even summer stuff ....
So your all hurt cuz new clan trying to kill him ....
And agains lock so less clans will "take your aggy"
Killing aggy over 1 hr can be alot reasons ...

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