Celtic Heroes

Obama hasn't put the US in more combined debt then all the other presidents...do the research

8 trillion moron[/

And stop calling people "moron" when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Now run along and apologize to Gladier. While you're at it, correct the person who told you $8 trillion

Thanks Dersu, appreciate you explaining the facts and sticking up for me. As for you Uzi, I am merely defending Obama's position and corrected your statement...this was sort of uncalled for. Well, we will all see what happens now with Obama in his second term.

No prob, Glad.

I should probably take some of my own advice and apologize to both derp and Uzi. My frustration with their arguments and lack of reading retention made me a little loose with the "arse" comments.

Sorry guys.

OK your in Canada. I can talk to that. I lived in Montreal for 5 months back in 98.

All my friends hated the health care system because if you were sick you would have to wait months to see a doctor. The common practice was to cross the border to see a US doctor. They would rather pay for service now then get free service 3 months from now. Also, I have met a lot of specialists that leave Canada and come to the US to practice medicine. They claim Canada exports it best and brightes because they can make better money in the US.

I wanted to talk to this point, Papi, as I think it is slightly slanted, and very outdated.

First off, was this information only from the friends you had during the 5 months? Do you keep in touch with them? What do they say now?

Things like the Canadian health care system are always evolving. I don't think 14 year old information is particularly valid today. Also, as Pigman pointed out, Quebec might have some of its own issues.

One major thing to remember is that there was a lot of fraud back then, especially in cities near the US boarder (as Montreal is). Photo ID was introduced to Canadian health care apples around 1995, but non-photo ID apples were still valid. Before the introduction of the photo on the apple, and in fact for several years after, many Americans would come to Canada and use a Canadian's health apple to gain access to free health care.

So a good proportion of the people in Canadian hospital waiting rooms were Americans who had no insurance back home. Your friends probably experienced some of this. The system had a flaw, that many Americans took advantage of (of course, the Canadians who lent or rented their apples are also to blame).

Photo ID on the apples has eased this fraud, and a lot of hospitals run quite smoothly. In general, if you are sick or injured, you will be seen by a doctor within hours. A general check-up may need to be scheduled in advance, but that is no different than making a dentists appointment.

Injuries and illnesses are given a priority rating, of course, so there may be delays if there is a choice between two patients similar in ailment, but different in severity. I think that is common of hospitals anywhere.

Well it looks like the decision was made by women voters under 45 who live in the cities.

Thanks for the discussion everyone.

For the next exciting topic perhaps we can move to religion?

I would rather not... I am a very vocal atheist and will end up seriously damaging in game friendships

allow me to correct myself, over 7 trillion, is your website full of liberalism and for sure truthful? bush spent money on iraq and afghanistan wars so thats not very fair. Obama got re-elected! May God help us all ( ._.)

allow me to correct myself, over 7 trillion, is your website full of liberalism and for sure truthful? bush spent money on iraq and afghanistan wars so thats not very fair. Obama got re-elected! May God help us all ( ._.)

Oh - my - god... This post of yours paints you with utmost clarity. The attempt... the complete disregard for reality or what has been stated... the lack of rationality, and the irony of what you think to be "fair." Of course you are incapable of understanding what we are talking about... of course you sound like a parrot...

You're in the 10 to 14 age bracket, aren't you.

You have been repeating what your parents or teachers tell you, or what you overhear them say. You are unable to really engage, simply because you haven't matured to that level, and that is why you resort to name calling etc.

It all makes perfect sense now, and I can't believe I didn't pick up on it earlier.

Ok. Good luck with everything.

ps. - The website is a pure data table from the U.S. Department of the Treasury's Bureau of the Public Debt. No politics, just the sheer power of numbers.
pps - One last time, 7 trillion is inaccurate. Your sources are highly suspect.

omg man, truce already! obama got elected, so lets stop fighting. nutin we can do about it for 4 years

omg man, truce already! obama got elected, so lets stop fighting. nutin we can do about it for 4 years

Sorry if my last post was unclear. I completely feel there is a truce. That is what I tried to suggest in my last post by saying that I understand you better now, plus my other post saying sorry for being rude.

I was just trying to help you understand better, hence, my two post scripts.

Well the only thing I can hope is that you consider that not everything you hear is true. Research it, think about it, and make up your own mind. If you do that you will become a fine member of society

Good luck, Uzi.

omg man, truce already! obama got elected, so lets stop fighting. nutin we can do about it for 4 years

Sorry if my last post was unclear. I completely feel there is a truce. That is what I tried to suggest in my last post by saying that I understand you better now, plus my other post saying sorry for being rude.

I was just trying to help you understand better, hence, my two post scripts.

Well the only thing I can hope is that you consider that not everything you hear is true. Research it, think about it, and make up your own mind. If you do that you will become a fine member of society

Good luck, Uzi.

excellent point(s)!!!