Celtic Heroes

Hey guys,

Just wanted to get the communities thoughts on an issue I have been noticing on this server. I wont name names, but I have noticed clans sharing their accounts for others in the clan to use. Now, I completely understand that some clans have community banking characters that many guardians have access to - this is a non-issue. The issue I am referring to here is on FFA's - people will log on clannies characters to make sure they have enough DPS to win. In my opinion, this is unfair. Most of us do not have access to high level accounts on the fly, and our gaming experience is suffering because of it. Its an issue of fair play.

Now, I have read talk in general discussion about admins "banning for sharing accounts". Unfortunately, I cannot find anything written in stone on the TOS about this, but im sure if the issue is escalated, admins will have no choice but to add it in there and take action.

Your thoughts?

Now, I have read talk in general discussion about admins "banning for sharing accounts". Unfortunately, I cannot find anything written in stone on the TOS about this, but im sure if the issue is escalated, admins will have no choice but to add it in there and take action.

Your thoughts?

Not sure I understand what you mean about being "written in stone" smoke, but this is what the ToS has about this:

http://www.onethumbmobile.com/celticher ... f-service/

We may, at our sole discretion, immediately suspend or terminate your access to the SOFTWARE PRODUCT should your conduct, in our sole determination, fail to conform with these Terms.

Here's the part about getting banned for doing anything against the ToS, which includes

You may not share your password, buy, sell, give or trade any account, nor attempt to buy, sell, give or trade any account.

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As for the rest of the post: IMO, it's... "fair". From your post, it sounds like the only reason you don't think it's fair is because of Your own lack of access to a high(er) level account. Put this way; would you feel differently if Deuc or Air let you access their account "on the fly"?

Personally, I think both (including clan banks) Should be removed, as they are ToS violations.

Hey Lel,

Thanks for your post - and for clearing up the TOS part. I looked in the sharing passwords stickied threads and couldnt find the part which you posted above.

As for the rest, I guess I made my point the wrong way. I am not upset that I do not have access to others accounts - in fact, I do not feel right playing other peoples characters - many of you know Azure and Luminous from pre-ow update and even pre-sv update. These are my brothers characters - they were given to me when he left the game. Both of these characters, when handed to me, were much higher level, and much better geared than my characters at that time. But I still put in my own time and got the characters I made to that level and beyond.

I just think its an unfair advantage. If you do not have the right classes on to take a mob when it spawns, you shouldnt be allowed to log on other peoples characters in order to beat out other clans who do have the force to take a mob, just not the same levels or gear. Most times I play in the morning when there is barely anyone online - usually my Druid and I make up about half of online members of our clan that early. I see crest dropping mobs up with no one around, and I have to pass because no one is on to take them down. But, if me and the few others in my clan had access to key players accounts, we could take everything np. IMO this is not how the game was intended to be played.

I see no problem with this, some people have brothers that have 1 account each and let each other play what OTM Is going to ban people that let there brother play there account? Highly unfair.

However come to you're FFA point about been a unfair advantage I also doubt that this will be a issue when the New "Target Lock" is introduced as there won't be FFA's

Edit: For OTM to ban people for this they would need a lot more evidence than just different players word or it's unfair

Example

Player 1 Has acsess to player 2 and player 3 account

Player 4 reports player 1-2 and 3 what prof does player 4 have? ( oh he told me he had accses) not good enough

OTM would need to implement a new IP system so they can cross check IP addresses again players then ban ( but then still his is infective to people who use proxy servers or IP changers)

I see no problem with this, some people have brothers that have 1 account each and let each other play what OTM Is going to ban people that let there brother play there account? Highly unfair.

How is this unfair, when they're being 'punished' for breaking the ToS of the game, which states both the rules and possible punishment thereof?

As for the rest, I do agree with you. How ever, it's not uncommon to see people stating that they Do share their accounts, without someone else accusing them of doing so.

Like I said, personally, I wouldn't mind not having either of them as possibilities. But the fact of the matter is, other MMO companies larger than OTM rarely enforced this rule in their ToS, even if they had the personnel to actually look into it.

I see no problem with this, some people have brothers that have 1 account each and let each other play what OTM Is going to ban people that let there brother play there account? Highly unfair.

How is this unfair, when they're being 'punished' for breaking the ToS of the game, which states both the rules and possible punishment thereof?

You're missing my point..Here's a example (this is not me)

you live in Texas with your mum
Your brother lives in New jersey with your dad
You and your brother a verry close
HOW would you like to be banned for sharing your account with your own brother family

that's what I was pointing at if you live in The UK and a clan mate lives in Australia both sharing account to win bosses maby yeah not fair

I see no problem with this, some people have brothers that have 1 account each and let each other play what OTM Is going to ban people that let there brother play there account? Highly unfair.

How is this unfair, when they're being 'punished' for breaking the ToS of the game, which states both the rules and possible punishment thereof?

You're missing my point..Here's a example (this is not me)

you live in Texas with your mum
Your brother lives in New jersey with your dad
You and your brother a verry close
HOW would you like to be banned for sharing your account with your own brother family

that's what I was pointing at if you live in The UK and a clan mate lives in Australia both sharing account to win bosses maby yeah not fair

Example is Moot. ToS states no sharing of passwords. That includes not sharing with your wife/husband/partner or your identical twin or cousin or what ever.

Like I said tho, it's not like OTM really enforces this. Heck, in other games, people even post request game changes like splitting account because "my wife, who I introduced to the game, is now hogging our account! please fix!", and yet not get punished for admitting it lol.

Hey evasive,

Thanks for your reply.

It is free to create an account - why wouldn't both brothers want their own characters? If they did, they would be able to play together, which is much more fun and gives an advantage.

Heck, in other games, people even post request game changes like splitting account because "my wife, who I introduced to the game, is now hogging our account! please fix!", and yet not get punished for admitting it lol.

Hey lel,

The above scenario would rarely pose a threat to other players gaming experience. In fact, otm would probably be happy if this was the case as they would benefit monetarily from a new player.

What I described I'm my original post is far from what u have described here. I'm talking about people who actually abuse the TOS, and, IMO, should be a bannable offense.

I know a lot of you will not agree with me, mostly the ones who benefit from this exploitation, but I will be putting in support tickets anytime I see this sort of thing going down. Whether or not OTM will take action is another story - however I do know this. Looking up IP's is not a tough thing to do when it comes to people connecting to servers - OTM will easily know if people are sharing accounts plain and simple.

I know a lot of you will not agree with me, mostly the ones who benefit from this exploitation, but I will be putting in support tickets anytime I see this sort of thing going down. Whether or not OTM will take action is another story - however I do know this. Looking up IP's is not a tough thing to do when it comes to people connecting to servers - OTM will easily know if people are sharing accounts plain and simple.

You could report then However I'd suggest you're wasting you time, OTM simply can not go around banning people because a person says they are sharing account's. Hek I will log in now and report 10 random people and say hey are account sharing and see if I can get them banned (wont do it just example) you simply need more proof then just word or mouth

No one has been banned for it andi doubt they ever will be OTM simply don't have the resources and man power for something so small