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Re: Bolas should have the same cooldown as entangle

#31
Don't be so quick to judge.

1. I am entitled to my opinion as are you. If you don't agree then disprove it or offer your counter opinion. Don't attack my integrity.

2. I do have a ranger and use both bolas and entangle.
You do not hsve a ranger, you have a spear ranger . You made this post to be self serving as a spear ranger you use entangle and do not use bolas, sure your entitled to your opinion but don't think us so foolish to not know where it is coming from.

Yes entangle is a broken skill, the effectiveness is weak and the cool down is just plain stupid ( cool down is twice how long the spell lasts ) that doesn't make bolas overpowered. Bolas is avoided an awful lot compared to most skills, marko wouldn't know this since he doesn't use bolas.
Did you not read the part of my post you quoted that says I do use bolas?

Not only do I use bolas, but my clannies do and we would be able to kill less bosses if bolas is nerfed.

So it is ridiculous that you say this is self serving.

I'm about making this game better and more balanced, and if bolas is put in its proper place, we can better get a feel for weaknesses to be improved about rangers and all classes in general.
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Re: Bolas should have the same cooldown as entangle

#32
Interesting idea. The argument being that we should nerf bolas BC rangers can solo bosses too easily is somewhat valid. Other classes who solo need pots to do so usually. It would be interesting to see entangle w a lower timer. I would be ok with bolas recast being like 5 seconds after it ends. That way we can't solo and take no damage, but it is still useful to get away and heal before we die (which is how I use it when leveling usually)
Exactly, Ender gets it.
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Re: Bolas should have the same cooldown as entangle

#33

Did you not read the part of my post you quoted that says I do use bolas?

Not only do I use bolas, but my clannies do and we would be able to kill less bosses if bolas is nerfed.

So it is ridiculous that you say this is self serving.

I'm about making this game better and more balanced, and if bolas is put in its proper place, we can better get a feel for weaknesses to be improved about rangers and all classes in general.
No marko you do not use bolas . You have bolas in your skill set as a last resort that you use to get a heal , you do not use bolas as it is being discussed in this thread.

Ffs you play a spear ranger and now you think you know something about rangers. From start to finish on this thread you showed us all how very little you know about rangers.

Is your bow skill capped ? Your ranged combat ? If not , stop posting about rangers and go cap it.
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Re: Bolas should have the same cooldown as entangle

#35
Bolas is the best Ranger skill and the only thing making Rangers a viable class over Rogues. Please do not change. Here is one Ranger's opinions on our skills. I focus on Bossing and Leveling, like we all do. Any PvP issues don't matter to me, nor really should they to you, until we can get some awesome PvP gear.

There are three good Ranger skills to max: Steady Aim, Light Heal and Bolas. I max Rapid Shot as well, but that's just me.

Steady Aim: Great buff, the problem with it, like all Ranger skills, is that you need to put points into Dex to improve it. Which hurts your auto attack, reducing your DPS.

Light Heal: Good for solo leveling and as support in groups. Again, same problem with Dex being Stat that improves it.

Rapid Shot: I max, but understand the argument that with the increased cool down period per skill point, it makes no sense to max out Rapid. See Rapid thread for further discussion.

Defensive Spikes is worthless.

Conceal and Camo require massive skill points to be of any help. At level 140, I need to put 29 points into Camo or Conceal avoid the mobs in Aggra's Cave. These skills would be more helpful if there was a "Ambush" bonus for your first attack coming out of Camo or Conceal, similar to Rogues.

Barbed is worthless. Dex required to be of any use isn't worth what you give up in auto attack.

Sharp Shot is good only for PvP, but not for bosses or mobs. Again, same problem as Dex required to be of any use isn't worth what you give up in auto attack.

Entangle: The 5th skill I max out. There are problems with the cool down though. Entangle cool down should be reduced to the same as bolas. Entangle is not worth the skill points in current form. It gets avoided too much to be effective at boss fights or in leveling. I don't have exact numbers, but would consider 1 our of 3 attempts to be avoided. With the long cool down. That means I get 1 min of 50% attack speed out of every 3.

Bolas: As promised, Bolas is the best Ranger skill. However, it is far from perfect. In a classic boss fight or leveling group with Tank and Druids, Bolas are worthless. Also, Bolas get avoided. Try using the Bolas and Run tactic on a mob 5 levels higher than you. If it misses twice in a row, you're dead. These problems aside, it is still the best Ranger skill as it allows us to solo level through level 120. After that, I only see Warriors solo level.

Conclusions and Response:
Increasing Bolas cool down time to that of Entangle would be the same as having your Bolas miss 3 times in a row every time. If Bolas were to get avoided with a changed cool down time, that would be like your Bolas getting avoided 7 times! It doesn't matter what would happen if it got avoided after that because with out weak armor, any Ranger would be dead at this point. Bolas are the only thing keeping Ranger viable. Without Bolas, everyone wanted to be a DPS would be a Rogue. Devs, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Do not change Bolas.

Re: Bolas should have the same cooldown as entangle

#37
To all rangers bolas is a overpowered skill atm. The only reason you don't like entangled is cause you never need to use. I would like to see bolas have a 20-25 second cooldown an entangled have a 30ish second cooldown. It is deffo a good idea. The poster above me goes on about how he wouldn't beable to solo. This is only cause his current build he wouldn't beable to solo they would still by far be the best solo class. Also all a ranger can do is bolas and if it misses they have time to bolas again... This should not be the case it should be bolas and if it misses oww quick entangle it so I don't take to much damage but I have more hp so it's not to bad. Then I can bolas get distance light heal then finish the mob... A ranger should not beable to go. Bolas,kill, run, bolas misses, keep killing, bolas,run and kill mob without being hit. I believe if the skills misses it should make rangers have to think a bit more.
Rogues had to do it... We could kill everything with 600 hp no problem then we got nerfed and had to adjust so I think ranger should be nerfed just a lil
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