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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels

#21
Some classes are not good solo levelers at high levels. Druids are tougher than mage to lvl if they are solo. So it is something you have to deal with. Mages have low armor.

You need to fix your druid build. There is no reason why you cant kill guards with druid and mage combo. Your druid needs to go bark, ward of soldiers, nature touch, and maybe roots or natures emrace with the extra points. If you can get to lvl 140 roots then you will find that it is very very easy. Even without roots it is still easy lvlin.

P.S. you need to wear a heroic rejuv, mountain shield, slash resist bracelet, and frozen gear on your mage. Also, precast your heals on you druid. dont wait till it looks like you need hp. You start casting it when you are 80% hp so that it finishes when you are 30% hp.
Last edited by Marshill on Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:02 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels

#22
Every Class has its own problems to deal with and they have spend equal amount of time , effort , gold and even sigils to create what is their version of a good class build.

Every Class has its own double edge sword to deal with:
Warrior: Tank Build vs Dps Build
Druid: DPS Build vs Heal Build
Rogue: DPS vs Vit (Spamming idols and pots with aoe bosses and cant solo efficiently)
Ranger: Most balanced but they have weird broken skills - Str build vs Dex build
Mage: DPS vs more skills into Energy Boost/Sacrifice

If mages want to have more dps ( which they already have at the moment ) , they will have greater energy issues due to increased casting speed. Its a double edge sword and you cant have it both ways.
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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels

#25
Man... Have u see our armor ? And u want to tank ? A 4 stars 140 when u r 136?
Just do a dps build and u will out dmg the warrior easily !
30/30 ice shard
30/30 fireball
25/30 fire lure
15-20/30 ice lure 30/30 cloack
30/30 incinerate

500+ focus
You will see you will get the kill damn !
I have that exactly except I use eshield instead of incinerate and have some more vit so i can take some hits. He also had non damage skills so I should have easily out dpsed him if IMO it was properly balanced.
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?

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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels

#26
As I said in my other posts. Mages with energy issues and crappy gear. For this game in its current form, GO MELEE CLASS.
Exactly my point. I would not have made a mage if I knew how unbalanced it was going to be in high levels for solo ability.
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?

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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels

#27
If 1 Mage can do it then why can't you all. His gear is decent but not amazing. And his top dps gear isn't discontinued yours comes from aggra ours from 140 drag which no longer spawns... So ya to say that magea are underpowered when if I wanted to get better gear the only extra damage I could get comes to about 30ish as my gear is almost maxed out. Is complete bs -.-
Well he probably dies if a wisp looks at him wrong.
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?

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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels

#28
Some classes are not good solo levelers at high levels. Druids are tougher than mage to lvl if they are solo. So it is something you have to deal with. Mages have low armor.

You need to fix your druid build. There is no reason why you cant kill guards with druid and mage combo. Your druid needs to go bark, ward of soldiers, nature touch, and maybe roots or natures emrace with the extra points. If you can get to lvl 140 roots then you will find that it is very very easy. Even without roots it is still easy lvlin.

P.S. you need to wear a heroic rejuv, mountain shield, slash resist bracelet, and frozen gear on your mage. Also, precast your heals on you druid. dont wait till it looks like you need hp. You start casting it when you are 80% hp so that it finishes when you are 30% hp.
Interesting though with ward of soldiers. I don't have access to that since I am not in top clan and books like that arent sold in my world. I have a standard bark, touch, embrace, and some in the max health spell. I only have 20 max skill so roots won't be an option. I want to use my lix on my mage not my druid ;).

All I'm saying is the classes aren't balanced. Sure they could nerf warriors but they have it hard enough already. Mages are practically unplayable unless it is an alt. My mage is my main so I have literally had to suffer through the money and frustration pit that is still the mage. Suffice it to say there aren't many of us because it is pretty severely unbalanced.
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?

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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels

#29
First off i dont have a mage so i dont have first hand experience to deal with, however i know several mages who use to be able to solo wyverns without ever getting hurt because of how strong they are and could kill a wyvern before the eshield broke. These same mages usually out dps everyone in the group on bosses unless they use cloak on the tank then usually the tank gets the kill for how strong the cloak is. I do agree though mages take a lot of thinking and alt books to find a good build for the right situation and would usually need to change between lvling, bossing, and pvp builds but to say they are under power when they almost always out dps everyone around the same lvl with just frozen gear and some extra damage accessaries isnt right.

On another note mages are amazing melee class and can deal 300-400 auto attack with a h2h build(no main weapon) and with h2h being close to the same speed as a rogues dagger this makes them pretty close in dps and mages have those extra 1-2k skills to cast to push them over a rogue.

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