I don't have a Mage yes but the facts speak for themselves if this is a constent occurring thing which i have observed it to be how can u argue that they arent powerful when the out dps every other class. One thing i didnt mention is that one big factor of mages out dps rogues is the stat cap on str after 350 if this wasnt there then more rogue problably would win but this limit nerds all melee only classes while mages dont need this stat to have great melee ability.its funny how the ppl who r saying mages r overpowered r the ones who dont play mage...
Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#32Why would they admit it? So they can get nerfed? We say it because we have been out dpses by them. Mages whine too much and don't realize all other classes have the same issues execpt we have stopped using skills because they suck.its funny how the ppl who r saying mages r overpowered r the ones who dont play mage...
As far as damage goes, mage does not need a boost nor do they need a boost to be able to solo. A rogue can't solo either lol.
The only thing I think mages need is this:
Either spells costing less energy or some way for mages to regain energy better.
Mages and druids should get 1.5X the number of skill points as non casting classes. They are skill based classes and can only utilize a fraction of their skills effectively. Every other level they should get 2 points instead of one.
Mages have the potential to do tons of DPS, but as a balanced build what do you expect? Rogues can't dream of soloing either.
Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#33+1 Well said!Why would they admit it? So they can get nerfed? We say it because we have been out dpses by them. Mages whine too much and don't realize all other classes have the same issues execpt we have stopped using skills because they suck.its funny how the ppl who r saying mages r overpowered r the ones who dont play mage...
As far as damage goes, mage does not need a boost nor do they need a boost to be able to solo. A rogue can't solo either lol.
The only thing I think mages need is this:
Either spells costing less energy or some way for mages to regain energy better.
Mages and druids should get 1.5X the number of skill points as non casting classes. They are skill based classes and can only utilize a fraction of their skills effectively. Every other level they should get 2 points instead of one.
Mages have the potential to do tons of DPS, but as a balanced build what do you expect? Rogues can't dream of soloing either.
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Dogorcat3--lvl 183--rogue--Elite
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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#34I think something we are missing is marko wants kills in xp groups , that is the underlying theme here . The mobs he is talking about are easy to kill with the proper duel build Mage/Druid , what he seems most upset about it the warrior getting kills in xp group.
Marko to say you can't get a certain spell because your clan isn't the biggest is a complete cop out , the books drop from fairy quest bosses, it would be sad if you are saying you can't kill those weak 5 star bosses .
High level mages do not need any type of boost , they are badass already .
Marko to say you can't get a certain spell because your clan isn't the biggest is a complete cop out , the books drop from fairy quest bosses, it would be sad if you are saying you can't kill those weak 5 star bosses .
High level mages do not need any type of boost , they are badass already .
Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#35One other thing most arent mentioning is if a druid has to choose between decent dps with poor support or full support with poor dps why shouldnt mages have to do this also. If u have a mage who is full support in the group things change. Also all lures are support so all mages are only 50/50 support and dps with a secondary mage thats full dps im sure mages would notice how overpowered 2k+ ice shards and 1k+ firebolts plus the other skills would end up adding to a ridiculous amount of dps.
Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#36I HATE when people say leveling a druid is hard, it is super easy I basically sit half-afk with a group at wyverns tapping a leaf while watching tv and it levels me up fast, easiest class to level (as long as you pop those elixers). And for lower levels like under 100 just do H2H with gold blade and use storm touch. Kills stuff pretty fast and easy.maybe, but lvling is impossible, maybe they kill a lot faster, but nrg regen takes the time of 20 mob kills, therefore mages are the slowest to lvl other than druids. jeez give marco a break!
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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#37TBH, enough with the dps rant already. Mages got a good boost the other time. Yes it took 4ever but its fixed and again, I stress that if the current dps still arent good enough for ppl who play mages. Just give it time for update 4 for the caster gloves/gear to appear and test it. Assuming its like herioc gloves being 30%, thats a total of 50% combined with previous upgrade for mages. That is a lot to consider.
Probably the only issue left then would be energy issues but hey if thats solved then mages would be the perfect class wouldnt it? But bear in mind again all classes have their own issues to deal with and you just need to come upwith better ways of improving it.
Probably the only issue left then would be energy issues but hey if thats solved then mages would be the perfect class wouldnt it? But bear in mind again all classes have their own issues to deal with and you just need to come upwith better ways of improving it.
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Lv 182+ Druid : Taranis
Lv 182+ Druid : Taranis
Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#38Yiley, you show how little you know about the game.
Stop while your only 10 ft in the pit.
I'm not even going to address what you said because it is all bogus.
Stop while your only 10 ft in the pit.
I'm not even going to address what you said because it is all bogus.
Nerfed Mage ~140
Why play a class where skills cost more than other classes for same damage?
Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?
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Re: Mages STILL underpowered at high levels
#39At least rogues have better armor...And they out dps mages on all except elemental weak bosses.Why would they admit it? So they can get nerfed? We say it because we have been out dpses by them. Mages whine too much and don't realize all other classes have the same issues execpt we have stopped using skills because they suck.its funny how the ppl who r saying mages r overpowered r the ones who dont play mage...
As far as damage goes, mage does not need a boost nor do they need a boost to be able to solo. A rogue can't solo either lol.
The only thing I think mages need is this:
Either spells costing less energy or some way for mages to regain energy better.
Mages and druids should get 1.5X the number of skill points as non casting classes. They are skill based classes and can only utilize a fraction of their skills effectively. Every other level they should get 2 points instead of one.
Mages have the potential to do tons of DPS, but as a balanced build what do you expect? Rogues can't dream of soloing either.
Nerfed Mage ~140
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Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?
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#40Ya well i'm wasting my elixers now... It is harder to level mages than melee classes pure and simple. You can't rely on groups to level in this game you need to be able to solo if needed.TBH, enough with the dps rant already. Mages got a good boost the other time. Yes it took 4ever but its fixed and again, I stress that if the current dps still arent good enough for ppl who play mages. Just give it time for update 4 for the caster gloves/gear to appear and test it. Assuming its like herioc gloves being 30%, thats a total of 50% combined with previous upgrade for mages. That is a lot to consider.
Probably the only issue left then would be energy issues but hey if thats solved then mages would be the perfect class wouldnt it? But bear in mind again all classes have their own issues to deal with and you just need to come upwith better ways of improving it.
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Why play a class with no auto attack?
Why play a class with 1/3 the armor?
Why play a caster?
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