As long as you get the most part (:
Thanks for the feedback ak
Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#62Hmmm this isn't in anyway annoying, it's more of a sort of ... umm how do u say it... like 'leave it all to the last minute situation' for the lower people.Some of us may think that not steadily advancing toward end-game status is a strange way to play, but if they are having fun and not annoying people, i have no issue with it.
I've done the exact same thing with frozen and astral armour lol, it was a pain but that's how it will be when update 4 launches. Most ppl will want to level faster so they can go here and there. When all that time they waiting or was just hanging around consuming time, they would want to get it done right after update. I get that feeling, that's why i am more prepared now a days. An example:
Update 2 i had no idea anything would go above 50k (golden hawk helm) so i kinda stressed for gold after seeing all these Rejuvantions and Heroics, it was like WOW. Then by update 3 i was prepared and tackled a nice chunk for my buddy toy and me (: And i lived the rest of my life with joy and happily ever after.
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Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#63Hi all from Clan ancients,
as i told some people in Clan, here is my forum message.
First of all, i'm sorry, english ist not my first spoken language... so if u dont understand what i wanna say just ask me pls... (here or ingame)
Let me say some words to the last happenings in the clan...
When i was invited by healmaster he always told me to play
- fair
- as a team
- help others from clan as a teamplayer
- never ever ks in or out of the clan!
Thats how I played this game and how i will play it in future. I found in the clan ancients my family in World lugh, nice ppl like Lady, Sam, healmaster (Who helped me a lot!!), Callu, Ani etc.
So i always seen me as a teamplayer, in boss fights or helping with quests, also helping with healing high lvls player (sometimes even without beeing in a group! getting no exp.) to lvl up!
Fact is: I left Clan ancients, so if u tell me no more comments here i ll accept this...
I just wann say some things to all of the clan:
- the reason why i left, for those who havent been online, is i got ks by one of the guardians (I will not say the name!!!)
- I was waiting for the dailies in arena, kill crammok, what is really hard for a druid lvl 91, skilled for healing max.
- nobody standing next to me, only MRpvp (not in clan but maybe u know him), the crammok spawned
- i started attacking, then a arrow was flying past my head, one of the guardians attacked also
- i told to stop ks, cause the guardian did not stop ks, MRpvp attacked and killed the guardian
- he (the guardian) died, i got crammok down over half, but he attacked again getting back from respawning point to arena
- with the last hits he pulled aggro cause of higher dmg, died cause he got killed again by MRpvp and with the last hit before he died he ks me and killed crammok
-> His apology: I did not want to ks, just helping -> but why did he not log out to be sure that there will be no ks? or stop attacking when crammok was nearly down? My health was over 3/4 full, so no danger for me...
And that is what i dont understand... Man we ve been in the same clan... why are u no team player?
-> This is not the spirit i got told at my invite to the clan... this ist not what I m living for in the clan... ks is not my placement!
So LadyB Thank u very much for all u have done for me!! U r one of the greatest in the whole clan!
Thank u also, giving me the chance to join back the clan, when i get over that... Thx for giving me the chance to take a clan time out...
@Toy: u r the chieftain of Ancients I will always respect u and what u will say, so if u dont want me back after writing this it will be ok, just tell me, ill accept that!
Sorry that u have to read this here but u havent been online to tell u all of that...
I just need time on my own, its really hard, cause the whole clan became my family, and i will not join any other clan!
Hope u all have fun playing!
If anybody needs my help for healing just let me know, as always i will help!!!
Cause thats my attitude!
Thx for reading this
Cu all inGame or here
WhiteskullD and WhiteskullM (my alt)
as i told some people in Clan, here is my forum message.
First of all, i'm sorry, english ist not my first spoken language... so if u dont understand what i wanna say just ask me pls... (here or ingame)
Let me say some words to the last happenings in the clan...
When i was invited by healmaster he always told me to play
- fair
- as a team
- help others from clan as a teamplayer
- never ever ks in or out of the clan!
Thats how I played this game and how i will play it in future. I found in the clan ancients my family in World lugh, nice ppl like Lady, Sam, healmaster (Who helped me a lot!!), Callu, Ani etc.
So i always seen me as a teamplayer, in boss fights or helping with quests, also helping with healing high lvls player (sometimes even without beeing in a group! getting no exp.) to lvl up!
Fact is: I left Clan ancients, so if u tell me no more comments here i ll accept this...
I just wann say some things to all of the clan:
- the reason why i left, for those who havent been online, is i got ks by one of the guardians (I will not say the name!!!)
- I was waiting for the dailies in arena, kill crammok, what is really hard for a druid lvl 91, skilled for healing max.
- nobody standing next to me, only MRpvp (not in clan but maybe u know him), the crammok spawned
- i started attacking, then a arrow was flying past my head, one of the guardians attacked also
- i told to stop ks, cause the guardian did not stop ks, MRpvp attacked and killed the guardian
- he (the guardian) died, i got crammok down over half, but he attacked again getting back from respawning point to arena
- with the last hits he pulled aggro cause of higher dmg, died cause he got killed again by MRpvp and with the last hit before he died he ks me and killed crammok
-> His apology: I did not want to ks, just helping -> but why did he not log out to be sure that there will be no ks? or stop attacking when crammok was nearly down? My health was over 3/4 full, so no danger for me...
And that is what i dont understand... Man we ve been in the same clan... why are u no team player?
-> This is not the spirit i got told at my invite to the clan... this ist not what I m living for in the clan... ks is not my placement!
So LadyB Thank u very much for all u have done for me!! U r one of the greatest in the whole clan!
Thank u also, giving me the chance to join back the clan, when i get over that... Thx for giving me the chance to take a clan time out...
@Toy: u r the chieftain of Ancients I will always respect u and what u will say, so if u dont want me back after writing this it will be ok, just tell me, ill accept that!
Sorry that u have to read this here but u havent been online to tell u all of that...
I just need time on my own, its really hard, cause the whole clan became my family, and i will not join any other clan!
Hope u all have fun playing!
If anybody needs my help for healing just let me know, as always i will help!!!
Cause thats my attitude!
Thx for reading this
Cu all inGame or here
WhiteskullD and WhiteskullM (my alt)
WhiteskullD Druid 170+ Lugh
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#64I would like to hear both sides of the story of course. If all you say is true, it is rather disgraceful. Anyone who has made it to guardian of ancients should know to
A. Ask before helping (or at least state they are helping)
B. know how to help without ksing (starting well after half, healing only, logging well before mob dies, etc).
I don't think you should leave over an incident, but toy should hear both sides and render some sort of judgement (maybe the guardian should give a couple xp elix to compensate you for the xp and time lost).
Please reconsider your decision.
A. Ask before helping (or at least state they are helping)
B. know how to help without ksing (starting well after half, healing only, logging well before mob dies, etc).
I don't think you should leave over an incident, but toy should hear both sides and render some sort of judgement (maybe the guardian should give a couple xp elix to compensate you for the xp and time lost).
Please reconsider your decision.
Civility, Integrity, and the Hermeneutic of Generosity
World: Lugh
Akbar: Ranger 220+
DrXyn-Druid 180+
Xyn: Mage 170+
Rabka: Rogue 150+
Rabak: Warrior 90+
Clan: Chieftain of Ancients
World: Lugh
Akbar: Ranger 220+
DrXyn-Druid 180+
Xyn: Mage 170+
Rabka: Rogue 150+
Rabak: Warrior 90+
Clan: Chieftain of Ancients
Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#65toy heard both sides of the story...
(We talked in a group)
But he was not online... He said "it seems that it looks like an accident"...
and i should accept this
The other version ist:
- he started fight behind me, cause of ranger...
- and he told that some berserkes can confirm that he was also waiting, but was in an area fight (But that was MRpvp who killed him cause he ks)
- so my statement vs his
-> But only after i left clan the guardian said "sorry and i should come back to clan..."
(We talked in a group)
But he was not online... He said "it seems that it looks like an accident"...
and i should accept this
The other version ist:
- he started fight behind me, cause of ranger...
- and he told that some berserkes can confirm that he was also waiting, but was in an area fight (But that was MRpvp who killed him cause he ks)
- so my statement vs his
-> But only after i left clan the guardian said "sorry and i should come back to clan..."
WhiteskullD Druid 170+ Lugh
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#66Well, if toy heard both sides then I remove myself. There are a few questions I still have, but I dont wish to retry the case.
I understand your frustration, but I hope you don't use a single incident as reason to leave good clan.
You will always be welcom back.
I understand your frustration, but I hope you don't use a single incident as reason to leave good clan.
You will always be welcom back.
Civility, Integrity, and the Hermeneutic of Generosity
World: Lugh
Akbar: Ranger 220+
DrXyn-Druid 180+
Xyn: Mage 170+
Rabka: Rogue 150+
Rabak: Warrior 90+
Clan: Chieftain of Ancients
World: Lugh
Akbar: Ranger 220+
DrXyn-Druid 180+
Xyn: Mage 170+
Rabka: Rogue 150+
Rabak: Warrior 90+
Clan: Chieftain of Ancients
Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#67Thank u akbar!
really nice of u, as i know u all the time...
If u have questions u always can ask me ingame... sry i only have ur mage in my friendlist...
Just whisper...
really nice of u, as i know u all the time...
If u have questions u always can ask me ingame... sry i only have ur mage in my friendlist...
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
Just whisper...
WhiteskullD Druid 170+ Lugh
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#68Hello Whiteskull,
I take it that your limited knowledge of english caused that you did not fully understand when we talked in the group.
Thank you that you chose to be descreet and did not mention the name of the guardian but i think it is no secret. It was Deth.
As you said, my position was hard on this matter. Yes, we agreed in the group all agree Deth "ksed" you, but I am not sure that he did it on purpose. Accidental ksing just happens, I am no kser, but "ksed" a few times because I hit too hard or I attacked the same time without knowing someone was there too and my spells were stronger. The truth is, that I always appologized in this case an I made sure the other side knows I did not do it on purpose.
Deth told us that he did not know that when he dies and returns from Arena spawn point, that he can still get the kill, which resulted in him "ksing" you. I did not know that either, because I would expect the damage would reset in this case. I am in no way defending Deth, he could log out and in to be sure as you pointed out and I agree with you - I do the same to be sure not to ks. Unfortunatelly Deth is clearly less experieced.
To get to the point, I have talked to Deth and I tried to explain him what does it mean to be a guardian. But unfortunatelly in the meantime I have found that Deth is not ready to be a guardian yet and I chose to demote him to a clansman again until he is ready.
I understand that you are disappointed but to be honest I think you are overreacting a bit. Deth appologized to you and he understands now that he should log out and in to be sure. If he "ks" again, be sure it will have consequences. But for now I do not see why should I punish Deth further.
I sincerely hope you understand me and that you choose to return to our clan too. You never should have left, because part of Ancients philosofy is also forgiving minor occasional errors in judgement which is natural to most humans (unfortunatelly some have severe error in judgment).
Looking forward to see you back in the clan soon.
Toycat
I take it that your limited knowledge of english caused that you did not fully understand when we talked in the group.
Thank you that you chose to be descreet and did not mention the name of the guardian but i think it is no secret. It was Deth.
As you said, my position was hard on this matter. Yes, we agreed in the group all agree Deth "ksed" you, but I am not sure that he did it on purpose. Accidental ksing just happens, I am no kser, but "ksed" a few times because I hit too hard or I attacked the same time without knowing someone was there too and my spells were stronger. The truth is, that I always appologized in this case an I made sure the other side knows I did not do it on purpose.
Deth told us that he did not know that when he dies and returns from Arena spawn point, that he can still get the kill, which resulted in him "ksing" you. I did not know that either, because I would expect the damage would reset in this case. I am in no way defending Deth, he could log out and in to be sure as you pointed out and I agree with you - I do the same to be sure not to ks. Unfortunatelly Deth is clearly less experieced.
To get to the point, I have talked to Deth and I tried to explain him what does it mean to be a guardian. But unfortunatelly in the meantime I have found that Deth is not ready to be a guardian yet and I chose to demote him to a clansman again until he is ready.
I understand that you are disappointed but to be honest I think you are overreacting a bit. Deth appologized to you and he understands now that he should log out and in to be sure. If he "ks" again, be sure it will have consequences. But for now I do not see why should I punish Deth further.
I sincerely hope you understand me and that you choose to return to our clan too. You never should have left, because part of Ancients philosofy is also forgiving minor occasional errors in judgement which is natural to most humans (unfortunatelly some have severe error in judgment).
Looking forward to see you back in the clan soon.
Toycat
... Toycat the Druid of Ancients in world Lugh ...
:. .:. .:. .:. .:. Patience is a virtue :. .:. .:. .:. .:
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Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#69Hi Toy!
Thank u for understanding me... and sorry if i did not understand u right... my mistake...
u choose the right words, i think, to explain what happened. And that i dont tell anybody the name is up to my "nature", i dont betray anybody
I was educated to tell always the truth, and that how i play this game...
Maybe that is also one of the reason why i am so hurt... i have no proble to forgive smoebody a mistake if he/she says sorry from his/her own
I dont want anybody to punish him, thats why i left the clan... i always wanna help and give the best i can...
Thank u very much for inviting me back in clan...
-> i ll never wanna be more than a recruit when i come back to ancients, not on a higher lvl or at any time...
-> i have to take important decisions every day in real life and i think i m at a age where i can say i a lot of experience of life (over30 years), so i still respect what u say and u did a wise decision
I ll always respect what u or one of the generals say...
So i ll calm down and i ll join back ancients...
but i wont take the green hawk fron deth he offered me... i dont even know why he did...
Greetings![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Thank u for understanding me... and sorry if i did not understand u right... my mistake...
u choose the right words, i think, to explain what happened. And that i dont tell anybody the name is up to my "nature", i dont betray anybody
I was educated to tell always the truth, and that how i play this game...
Maybe that is also one of the reason why i am so hurt... i have no proble to forgive smoebody a mistake if he/she says sorry from his/her own
I dont want anybody to punish him, thats why i left the clan... i always wanna help and give the best i can...
Thank u very much for inviting me back in clan...
-> i ll never wanna be more than a recruit when i come back to ancients, not on a higher lvl or at any time...
-> i have to take important decisions every day in real life and i think i m at a age where i can say i a lot of experience of life (over30 years), so i still respect what u say and u did a wise decision
I ll always respect what u or one of the generals say...
So i ll calm down and i ll join back ancients...
but i wont take the green hawk fron deth he offered me... i dont even know why he did...
Greetings
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
WhiteskullD Druid 170+ Lugh
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
WhiteskullM Mage 60+ Lugh
SwissCross Rogue 70+ Lugh
proud Member of Clan Ancients
Re: Clan Ancient Thread
#70I may be the noobyest, most worthless player in the game but i do know a few things...
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
I actilly have known deth and whiteskull for a long time in my gaming experience. I do not believe deth would do this on purpose... No saying it didnt happen...
And white i have always known u as a a respectable player if u ever wanna train together or need help im always here![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Maybe new clan messageA. Ask before helping (or at least state they are helping)
B. know how to help without ksing (starting well after half, healing only, logging well before mob dies, etc).
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Maybe that was a little harsh for 1 incident toy.. Not defying ur almighty rule or anythingTo get to the point, I have talked to Deth and I tried to explain him what does it mean to be a guardian. But unfortunatelly in the meantime I have found that Deth is not ready to be a guardian yet and I chose to demote him to a clansman again until he is ready.
I understand that you are disappointed but to be honest I think you are overreacting a bit. Deth appologized to you and he understands now that he should log out and in to be sure. If he "ks" again, be sure it will have consequences. But for now I do not see why should I punish Deth further.
![Embarrassed :oops:](./images/smilies/icon_redface.gif)
I actilly have known deth and whiteskull for a long time in my gaming experience. I do not believe deth would do this on purpose... No saying it didnt happen...
And white i have always known u as a a respectable player if u ever wanna train together or need help im always here
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)