Celtic Heroes

Yes but many rogues including myself don't have earthstone or bloodlust (items you always assume we have) and i have camped well over a month and only gotten a few lions in clan and people are unwilling to sell because they are so rare and go for 200k if you are lucky.

I was responding to Venus who said they have es .

I think we are starting to stray away from the original post, we were talking about lavalord and getting something changed about him whether it be a more fair drop rate of coloured crests, faster spawns, or more of a chance of a boss spawning rather than a super high chance of a minion.

For those who complain about me whining i realise i seem noobish but i can level to 125 in 2 hrs from 121 my rogues current level. I dont need to level in area when i can simply camp on one account and level a second on another device.

On lugh i seem to be the most conservant with elixirs. I used 2 elixes to level at 120 no excessive grinding or questing. I am not complaining about anything but the class drop rates and spawn time. This is my second time on this quest and i have spent over 2 months for my druid and now im almost at 2 months for my rogue and have only seen personally 2 purple lions drop in this time. And the other purple lions that have dropped ive heard about were only 6 now 8 lions of a class in 2 months isnt fair. The amount of blue lions that drop is substancially higher than any other class we get roughly 2-3 a week which is extremely high compared to any other class. People have actually decided to drop blue lions as they dont sell. I am complaining for a good reason. Many others are complaining about the lack of red lions on our server i would just like to see a formula implemented that changes the drop rate of each class drop to give better chance for the highest amount of people of that class to get their required drop that are actually doing the quest? This same formula could be used for new bosses that have class restricted drops. And if no one was doing the quest then the drop rate would be equal for each class.

The current drop distribution seems fine to me. Warriors are the predominant class in the game so they need more red crests. When the current high level warriors get geared, more will follow. I've had to collect lions for every class in the game and ultimately i've gotten at least 4 of each kind. It really just takes patience. If you can't get the crest you are waiting for, you are not patient. If you want a lesson in patience, ask ANY high level warrior pre update who needed red space or red mind

For those who complain about me whining i realise i seem noobish but i can level to 125 in 2 hrs from 121 my rogues current level. I dont need to level in area when i can simply camp on one account and level a second on another device.

On lugh i seem to be the most conservant with elixirs. I used 2 elixes to level at 120 no excessive grinding or questing. I am not complaining about anything but the class drop rates and spawn time. This is my second time on this quest and i have spent over 2 months for my druid and now im almost at 2 months for my rogue and have only seen personally 2 purple lions drop in this time. And the other purple lions that have dropped ive heard about were only 6 now 8 lions of a class in 2 months isnt fair. The amount of blue lions that drop is substancially higher than any other class we get roughly 2-3 a week which is extremely high compared to any other class. People have actually decided to drop blue lions as they dont sell. I am complaining for a good reason. Many others are complaining about the lack of red lions on our server i would just like to see a formula implemented that changes the drop rate of each class drop to give better chance for the highest amount of people of that class to get their required drop that are actually doing the quest? This same formula could be used for new bosses that have class restricted drops. And if no one was doing the quest then the drop rate would be equal for each class.

I don't think it's whining. Its just discussing something you see as a problem. There are many quest bottlenecks in this game. This one seems related in part to the numbers of classes on different servers and drop chances.

Of course some higher levels will dismiss this with the usual " I had to do it so you should too" response.

They ignore changes to the game and possibly different class numbers. And they also forget there were less high levels hoarding these things back in the prehistoric era when they started. CH was a land of Milk and Honey then and no one complained at all !!

I too am looking for Lions but I see parallels in the meteric tab and rems bottleneck. There the problem isnt so much drop frequency (though the various Diamonds take forever) but rather players who are over level 100 that seem to dominate the bosses. In the Rem/tab/Diamond market, money talks.

I am afraid if people are hoarding Lions (and other crests?) we had all better start saving.

I think the drop rates should NOT be increased (well maybe a teensie bit) but just adjusted as you have suggested to meet current class ratios. OTMs developers can do it...we have faith.

I don't want to feel forced to buy quest items to finish the quest in a reasonable time and 2 months and no outcome ie even 1 Lion seems too long.
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Do you guys remember falgren pre update .... not many got their weps before lvl 90 when they got the quest at lvl 50
.... its gona be even slower next update so theres gona be more complaining
dont mind me i love reading these posts

Well as you said high levels camp bosses for money but with lavalord no one has the patience to camp these bosses but a select few waiting for lions. I understand you may have gotten 4 of every lion but that doesnt prove anything it just means you are obviously active when lavalord spawns. On lugh we rarely get a lavalord spawn and they seem to spawn when our server is most active (about 4am for me) now i am not speaking just for myself i know of many warriors and rogues that are nearing 150 without their frozen weapon i know of some mages that have gotten all their crests before they even started frozen gloves quests. All that i want to happen is increase his chance of spawning. My last lavalord fight was about 2 weeks ago and that was at 2am. Im sorry if im camping the spawn all day for one item and the boss doesnt even spawn that doesnt seem fair to anyone because im not only searching for one lion for me im searching for lions for my friends as well. I may not seem like it on forums but i am one of lughs top druids. I have played non stop since january last year, i have been apart of falgren bottle neck and space and mind bottle neck too, but this lion bottle neck isnt from the players themselves its from the lack of the boss spawning. When i was stuck at falgren i still managed to get 6 drags and i only used 2 for my druids bp, and i spent months looking for my last green space. I spent around 300k on my meteoric bp alone. Not to mention the rest of my druids armour. I am just asking that this boss to spawn enough so that we wouldnt have to wait months just for one drop. My druid had an easy time collecting crests because i was the first grouped for most fights i was one of the pioneer druids quest wise. I am not just asking it for my own profit but i am asking it so that the quest isnt so rediculous. Even if the minions had a higher chance of dropping a lion would be helpful...

Yeah, I got all my green crests at level 82 on my druid and for super cheap, most expensive 20k per bear. Now im at my rogue unable to buy stags or bears cause of the low supply and high demand, and the lions.. We have maybe 8 rogues waiting for lions atm and there are plenty more approaching the 120 range who will need them as well while on the other hand we have a couple mages approaching 125 an all have their crests and there are plenty more in game.

I though lions were need at 125. I agree that the spawn and drop rate might not be perfect but I think you should probably just start leveling in the area for a while. Maye you will get it before you hit 125.

I you look at my first post I indicate that there is problems with the drop rates. Not the part you grabbed onto with your followups.

However has it ever occurred to you that the intention might have been to give players something to look for between the levels of 125 and 150. I believe the quest was given at 125 so that players could start it then and work towards it while leveling to the softcap range of 150ish. However because of the lack of updates most high level players have several alts in the 125 range. This increases demand and reduces supply over time. I'm all for increased spawn rates. I don't know enough about the drop distribution per server to have an opinion on that.

The thin is on this game you don't work for the crests, you simply wait and wait and wait and hope you get lucky unlike most games where you can repeatedly kill the boss over and over and eventually get a drop. With this many people waiting for a single boss that spawns once daily or twice at best, you would think it would drop more than 1 crest, especially since it is the hardest ow boss other than aggy. But that is off the point, the point we are trying to get too is this crap is too rare for the amount of people playing. Picture in say a yet when the game population will have increased a lot(i hope). We have trouble with 6 or so people so picture ahead of time when theres 20-30+ waiting for this stuff. Will be nuts.