Celtic Heroes

Alright, well I figured I'd make a thread with frequently asked questions about dex rangers...

Let's start with a few questions people may have.
------------Questions
1) Why would you use large amounts of dexterity instead of strength?

2) Doesn't strength give you higher dps? (damage per second)

3) What skills should I use as a dex ranger?

4) I don't spend money on potions, so would a dex ranger be the best route for me?

5) Many high level people say that rapid shot is broken, should I ditch it?

6) Are skills with the most amount of points into them the best ?

7) I just power leveled to 75, and am using a quarts bow. Should I use a strength build? (I was just asked this yesterday)


----------Answers
1) If you go to your skills and read the descriptions, you will see that nearly every ranger skills is buffed by dexterity. This makes using dex extremely crucial for rangers that are more concerned with either helping their group or even who just want to solo/group level efficiently. Dex rangers can do it all!

2) Yes, strength does generously help out your dps, (damage per second) but you also have to have a fair amount of dexterity to increase your attack, so that you land more hits on your target.

3) As a dex ranger, Light heal should be your bread and butter. Light heal is what makes us potentially the most desirable class. Combine a nice light heal along with bolas and you will become an extremely efficient solo leveler! Now, let's not forget about sharp shot, this skill is what makes up for our low-mid strength. Being dex rangers, we should always have sharpshot and light heal maxed, as I like to call it "healin' and dealin."

4) YES! Not only is being a dex ranger loads of fun, but it protects your wallet, too!

5) Now, although rapid shot is very different than most skills, I was wrong in another thread when I refered to it as "broken." This is a very helpful skill, especially for those who do not have haste gloves. Ultimately, this skill is one of those skills that is even useful at level 1, however I like to keep mine at 9. Simply because it lasts just long enough for me to kill most monsters. Test this skill and find the right duration for you.

6) Simply said, no. As a dex ranger all of your skills will have some use, even if they are only at level 5. Being a dex ranger typically means that you aren't worried about being the highest hitter, but that you are willing to sacrifice some dps to better your team. When it comes to group leveling don't be afraid to cast defensive spikes, even if it's only at 7.(same could be said with steady aim at lower levels) Little things like this will help you gain slightly more experience and will also make you a very pursed player when it comes to leveling groups.

7) Well, seeing that you power leveled to that current level, here are two pretty good options but it depends on what your goal is. If your goal is leveling quickly, from my experience I would go with a dexterity build in this situation because you more than likely have an extremely low bow ability, thus having low attack. Using a dex build would be a great temporary fix for this. Second option is, go with a fairly balanced build and hold off on using skills like barbed or sharp shot for a while, in order to get your ability back up to where it should be.
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Feel free to ask even more questions, the more questions you ask the better off other players will be when they come across this in the future.

Also, feel free to answer these questions in your own words. I'm always willing to add on to this thread.

wow this is great advice! but, i am a str ranger. im lvl 96 on Rhiannon. i have deepfall diamond bp and legs along with heroic ammy, gloves, and boots. i also have a golden prowess helm and golden magic quiver with an energy regen bracelet and ring, to keep my mana high cause rangers use alot of energy.
now my stats:
str: 325
dex: 200
foc: 55
vit: 100
are these good for a str ranger?...
i only miss hits like 1/3 times. thats a 67% chance of landing attacks with a powerful hit. and my hits normally range from 290-410 on blue eyes and trees. on training dummys its 500-670
now my skills i use:
bolas: 24/25
sharpshot: 31/25 (i have glass an royal ring)
rapid shot: 25/25 (with heroic gloves its extra fast, atleast thats what people say)
light heal: 25/25
i always max my light heal first bcause of my low health. i dont have much health regen because of how badass light heal is. its such an advantage.
well i am really looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

-IzzAllGood (;

2) Yes, strength does generously help out your dps, (damage per second) but you also have to have a fair amount of dexterity to increase your attack, so that you land more hits on your target.


5) Now, although rapid shot is very different than most skills, I was wrong in another thread when I refered to it as "broken." This is a very helpful skill, especially for those who do not have haste gloves. Ultimately, this skill is one of those skills that is even useful at level 1, however I like to keep mine at 9. Simply because it lasts just long enough to kill most monsters. Test this skill and come up with your own opinion.

Just a couple of points.

Attack has a 1:1 Ratio with DEX and Ability. At L151, assuming Your Bow ability is maxed, your base Attack (before dex, or gear) is 1510. 300 Dex will add 20% to that # (500 Dex will add 33%, etc) , and that's assuming you don't have Gear that adds to Attack as well. So I would strongly disagree with that statement. DEX help, but you certainly don't "have to have a fair amount of dexterity to increase your attack", as the majority of your Attack will come from elsewhere.

9 pts in Rapid Shot, is about 10 seconds duration. If you can "kill most monsters" in that time, I can only assume you're either in a group, or you're killing mobs Much Much lower than your level; either of which makes this section bizarre, to say the least. At L108, I have about 18 seconds Duration (about 25 with grand ring), and that's barely enough to kill a 2Star of the same level.

now my stats:
str: 325
dex: 200
foc: 55
vit: 100

I'm assuming those stats include gear like Gold quiver? Otherwise, you have like 100 extra stats in there for a L98


You may want to consider moving some of that Dex to Vit. Unless you're grouped, you may need more Health soloing Kelpies and those wood things (ents)

You can always up your Dex later on, tho I hear you'll also want more health (again) when you solo golems esp since they have ranged attacks too

Remove all your stats from Focus unless you're really having power issues.


Personally, I have 305 Str, 100 Dex (175 w Quiv), and 150 Vit @ 108. I may put pts in Dex again, but only after I've gotten at least 200 vit, which will be in 10 lvls which will be perfect timing to see if I need to continue with Vit against golems, lol.

now my stats:
str: 325
dex: 200
foc: 55
vit: 100

These aren't your raw stats, are they?

Edit: I didn't see mariner's latest post asking the same question. Oh well.

2) Yes, strength does generously help out your dps, (damage per second) but you also have to have a fair amount of dexterity to increase your attack, so that you land more hits on your target.

Just a couple of points.

Attack has a 1:1 Ratio with DEX and Ability. At L151, assuming Your Bow ability is maxed, your base Attack (before dex, or gear) is 1510. 300 Dex will add 20% to that # (500 Dex will add 33%, etc) , and that's assuming you don't have Gear that adds to Attack as well. So I would strongly disagree with that statement. DEX help, but you certainly don't "have to have a fair amount of dexterity to increase your attack", as the majority of your Attack will come from elsewhere.

I think you totally missed the point I was trying to make. Although, I do agree that a large amount of attack comes from your bow skill and your gear, the point I was trying to make was noticeable changes come from adding a lot of dex. If i kept my attack at 1510, even though when it comes to numbers this seems high, I would miss probably about half of my shots if I was leveling on wyverns. However, with my 440 dex and 2.6k attack, I land about 3/4s of my shots.

Test this skill and come up with your own opinion.

9 pts in Rapid Shot, is about 10 seconds duration. If you can "kill most monsters" in that time, I can only assume you're either in a group, or you're killing mobs Much Much lower than your level; either of which makes this section bizarre, to say the least. At L108, I have about 18 seconds Duration (about 25 with grand ring), and that's barely enough to kill a 2Star of the same level.

Maybe "opinion" was a confusing word to use there, but I was trying to imply that just because it works for me doesn't mean it will work perfectly for everyone.

I think you totally missed the point I was trying to make. Although, I do agree that a large amount of attack comes from your bow skill and your gear, the point I was trying to make was noticeable changes come from adding a lot of dex. If i kept my attack at 1510, even though when it comes to numbers this seems high, I would miss probably about half of my shots if I was leveling on wyverns. However, with my 440 dex and 2.6k attack, I land about 3/4s of my shots.

No, and your additional info just proves it.

Of your 2600 Attack, 1510 came from your ability (unless you're now L152, in which case 1520 ...), another (2600-1510-440) 650 came from your gear. 440 Attack pts came from your Dex -- quite literally the smallest contributor of the three sources (58% from Abil, 25% from gear, and 17% from Dex).

Like I said, Dex helps, but it's far from "you have to have a fair amount of dexterity to increase your attack" as you originally posted.


Different folks, different strokes of course. NOT saying your build and play style is "wrong", but unless the game calculates things differently at higher levels, it seems to me you were putting too much emphasis on the benefits of Dex vis a vis.

Edit: corrected error on % contribution to Attack#s.

Edit2: BTW, just so you know, I would Love for DEX to be more important. OTM Needs to do another fix on stats so that not everyone's non-skill dmg comes from STR. I used to run scenarios on various classes (non casting tho I played around with a DPS Druid too) but the sad fact is, a DPS War, Rogue, AND Ranger can be VERY good with the Exact Same Stats. 200-350 Str, 100 - 150 Dex, and the rest in VIT.

A ranger can never have too much dex .

I agree with Elim on this one, unless you are using knucks or spear in which case more even str:dex is more ideal.

Xer

Lvl 154 ranger--Rhiannon